How is this a competitive advantage for Cisco? 

Have you never heard of Aruba's AirGroup? The features sound very similar.


Bruce Osborne
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-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Duling [mailto:mark.dul...@biola.edu] 
Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2013 5:17 PM
Subject: Re: For those of you on Cisco code 7.5, supporting Bonjour, etc...

>> ... Cisco going above and beyond to accommodate Apple's shame.

Cisco is overjoyed at the opportunity to provide themselves a competitive 
advantage.  Users are overjoyed at the capability.  I suppose most IT workers 
are happy to have the job security that solving visible user-centric problems 
like this provides.  Lee, if I didn't know better I'd think you've suddenly 
lost faith in multi-vendor solutions.  :)


On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 12:17 PM, Lee H Badman <lhbad...@syr.edu> wrote:
> I'm still seeing a lot of potential drawbacks to this, despite Cisco 
> going above and beyond to accommodate Apple's shame. I also have to 
> wonder- is anyone willingly doing what we all know is also 
> undesirable- popping up one-off topologies for isolated AppleTV and 
> AirPrint (and Chromecast for that matter), outside of the controller 
> environment, and just living with the limits and interference?
>
>
>
> Fess up now, you're among friends. J
>
>
>
> -Lee
>
>
>
> From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
> [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Mike Albano
> Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2013 12:47 PM
> To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] For those of you on Cisco code 7.5, 
> supporting Bonjour, etc...
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>
>
> I am also running 7.5, utilizing the mDNS AP feature. This allows the 
> devices (AppleTV's) to be plugged into a wired connection. Much less 
> channel util. when screen-sharing is only going over Wireless in one 
> direction. It works well. The simple guide is here:
>
> http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/wireless/technology/bonjour/7.5/Bonjou
> r_Gateway_Phase-2_WLC_software_release_7.5.html#wp44530
>
>
>
> You can designate an mDNS ap at the distribution layer, or choose an 
> ap in ea. building, if your need crosses distribution routers.
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> Mike
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> -----The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
> <WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> wrote: -----
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> To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
> From: Lee H Badman <lhbad...@syr.edu>
> Sent by: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
> <WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>
> Date: 10/10/2013 08:10AM
> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] For those of you on Cisco code 7.5, 
> supporting Bonjour, etc...
>
> Hi  Rick-
>
>
>
> Thanks for the response.
>
>
>
> I guess I knew Prime wasn't involved in Bonjour per se- I should have 
> asked the question with more clarity. Wondering if PI was helping in 
> any way with the management of zones, etc, as given our size we could have 
> lots of them.
>
>
>
> If you don't mind sharing (could do a call if you'd rather), what is 
> your typical "bring a Bonjour zone to life scenario"? Someone says 
> they want to use AirPlay or AppleTV where you don't yet have a zone, 
> and then.? Are you seeing cases where it's being relied on for 
> classroom use, has a hiccup, and becomes an emergency response because 
> instruction is disrupted? And which version of Cisco's cookbook are 
> you using- the one with Broadcast enabled on the WLAN or the one with Unicast?
>
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>
> Again, Thank you.
>
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> -Lee
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>
> From: Rick Coloccia, Jr. [mailto:coloc...@geneseo.edu]
> Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2013 11:02 AM
> To: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv; Lee H 
> Badman
> Subject: Re: For those of you on Cisco code 7.5, supporting Bonjour, etc...
>
>
>
> Bonjour first comes to the party with 7.4.  I had a long talk with the 
> Cisco people (many hours over several days inside a tac case regarding 
> bonjour and print servers) about the differences between 7.4 and 7.5 
> with regard to Bonjour.  7.5 introduces a "zone" concept, where only 
> certain Bonjour sources are repeated to certain place.  The core 
> functionality is the same, though, between 7.4 and 7.5.  If you go to 
> 7.5, you can't go to prime 2, you'll need to wait for prime 2.1.
>
> Now, all that said, we're running 7.4.110.0, with almost 900 APs on 7 
> controllers, and Bonjour is working.  Yep. I wrote that.  Apple tvs 
> and printers "just show up."  Users are happy.  Yep.  I wrote that, too.
>
> Prime isn't involved at all in Bounjour, not in the very least.
>
> Feel free to shoot questions over.
>
> -Rick
>
>
> On 10/10/2013 10:54 AM, Lee H Badman wrote:
>
> I have heard tangentially that 7.5 helps the cause of supporting 
> AppleTVs better than last couple of versions (no discredit to Cisco 
> for trying to solve Apple's shortcomings). Is there anyone running 7.5 
> on a big, prod WLAN that can say they are having an acceptable, 
> low-support/low-confusion-for-users experience with lots of Apple 
> Bonjour-dependent devices in use? Is PI helping with this in any way?
>
>
>
> Just trying to get a read before we go to 7.5.
>
>
>
> (I am aware of Bonjour gateways and what other vendors are doing, 
> hoping to keep answers limited to Cisco 7.5)
>
>
>
> Thanks very much-
>
>
>
> Lee Badman
>
>
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