I can see getting 3 or 4 AP's on a site if everything is GPS synced with 10mhz channels. I agree this is more a cell phone killer then a wisp killer (read my post a bit back for my view on likely devices). And if it goes Google's way then its just the tip. There is a fair bit of spectrum from 600 to 1ghz that could find its way open if this works out. If a device can be put online cheaply some one will do it and some one will buy it.
On 7/23/07, Mike Hammett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
It sounds like Google will only bid if they get their way, which is the complete opposite of what the telcos want to do. I don't see them bidding against each other. I agree that 20 MHz doesn't get you much. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom DeReggi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> Sent: Monday, July 23, 2007 1:10 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Google makes it official -- putting up $4.6 billion > Although, its smart to ask those questions, and keep a midful eye open for > posibilities and threats... > > "Can you > compete with FREE service, using 700mhz NLOS technology (meaning > self-install, take the modem with you to work type service)?" > > Yes. Becaues the 700Mhz spectrum being auctioned is less than 20Mhz worth > of spectrum. > Could you image trying to operate your WISP, will all omnis? or only Two > sectors? Or really small channel sectors? > 700Mhz providers aren't going to be able to provide truely "HI SPEED" > services. They are going to be able to deploy low speed mobile services > for rural areas. > Are WISPs doing that now? Not really. I look at that as competition to > Cell Phone providers' edge and evdo. > > I will add that Google being added to the bidder's list, will make it > harder for WISPs to win auctions. > Googles interest in rural markets will get LECs more seriously also > looking at thsoe markets, likely raising the low bid. > > Tom DeReggi > RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc > IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Travis Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> > Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2007 2:23 AM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Google makes it official -- putting up $4.6 billion > > >> And thus you just hit the nail on the head... and it brings us back full >> circle to the original subject of this thread... >> >> Google is going to bid on 700mhz spectrum... billions of dollars... then, >> once they own it, they are going to start some type of wireless internet >> service using that spectrum... and then, they WILL be competing directly >> with all the ISP's. And, they will probably give the service away FREE, >> just like they do now with their WiFi service. Can you compete with FREE >> service, using 700mhz NLOS technology (meaning self-install, take the >> modem with you to work type service)? >> >> So, now who's your friend? They have a huge recurring income from the >> search engine, so they don't have to make a dime on other services... >> gmail, Google Earth, etc. are all examples. They will just add 700mhz >> wireless to the list of "free" things they provide. >> >> Travis >> Microserv >> >> Michael Erskine wrote: >>> Travis Johnson wrote: >>>> I'm not sure what the hell your problem is, but you really need to get >>>> a grip. I started in the internet space in 1994... back before Google >>>> or even Altavista... back when there were no real search engines to >>>> speak of... and now today, Google's search is used by 44% of ALL >>>> internet searches... so, whether you believe it or not, they CAN >>>> control what searches are displayed for 44% of the internet.... that's >>>> only about 600 million people. >>> >>> >>> 1) I took you to be a young man from the start. I wrote machine >>> language on a Commodore 64 in 1983 while I was studying Computer Science >>> but I sat down to my first main frame keyboard in 1972. >>> 2) 44% is not a majority, last time I looked. >>> 3) They are not the evil empire, honest... :P They are just another >>> company making a living. >>> >>>> >>>> Postini does SPAM blocking and filtering for a very large percentage of >>>> the internet today... we have been using them for almost 4 years. Large >>>> corporations (Apple, Sun, and others) also use them. So, once again, >>>> with Google buying Postini, they can control a _very_ large percentage >>>> of what emails get thru and don't get thru. >>> >>> >>> Well you see, I've never felt the need to have someone else manage my >>> mail servers... That means that I can't relate to your problem. Mind >>> you I don't believe your problem is anything but paranoia, but I could >>> be wrong. Google could be the evil empire and they might want to >>> prevent me from getting my E-Mail... Maybe ... NAWWWWWH! Prolly not! >>> :) >>> >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Sounds like you are prepared to have Google control the internet for >>>> you rather than some ILEC that can really never have control... but >>>> some of us are not. Some of us helped get the internet where it is >>>> today because it was open and not controlled. You really need to open >>>> your eyes and take a look around... Google is becoming the Microsoft of >>>> internet space. >>> >>> >>> Gee, Google never did lobby the FCC to get permission to "wholesale" DSL >>> to us for $24.95 per month, while they "retailed" the same lines to our >>> customers at "$15.95" per month. Verizon did. Friend, you need to >>> figure out who your allies are and who wants to crush you... Google has >>> no interest in crushing Travis Johnson... The ILEC's do have an >>> interest in crushing your business because you and they are in the same >>> business space now. >>> >>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> Would you like to see your advertisement here? Let the WISPA Board know >>> your feelings about allowing advertisements on the free WISPA lists. >>> The current Board is taking this under consideration at this time. 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