I agree Google is not evil.
Goodle does however have the marketing, eyeball count, and vision, to drive astronomical huge increases in bandwdith need for users, and sell it for pennies on the dollar of what it should be sold at, to fund the network expansion to support it. WISP technology does not have the capacity, and WISPs don;t have the financing to grow with it at the same rate as it can be deployed. All it takes is for Google to launch some consumer targeted killer app, that they must have, and there goes the served residential market to the Cable companies and FIOS. And there goes out the window competition and procider choice for consumers. That does not make Google bad, just a threat to the existing industry.

Personally, I think Google should use that 4.5 Billion differently. To develop a fund for independant WISPs, or possibly to start rolling them up. With of course provisions to protect the ongoing use of Google, and promote the upgrades to handle Google's future needs. This industry could be changed overnight, if Google dollars were behind WISPs' talent.

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter R." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2007 9:20 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Google makes it official -- putting up $4.6 billion


Remember when Google was buying up dark fiber?
It scared everyone.

Now Google is going to bid on spectrum IF a bunch of conditions are met.
Those conditions will NOT be met. (Have you forgotten who chairs the FCC?)
So it is probably just a ploy.

And if they DO win some spectrum, the rules will be that it has to be Wholesale - so anyone can sell on it.

Google will be on top until they screw up. Like Yahoo. Like AltaVista. Like Excite. Like Lycos. Like Ask.

They make money because they are the most used search engine. Not the best. The most used. So that is where advertising dollars go. It can change. It often does.

BTW, Google will peer with you for free. SO if 44% of your bandwidth is for Google, they just saved you on IP bamdwidth costs. Anyone else doing that?

I can't believe I am agreeing with Mike E. but I don't see them as any more evil than any other company. And having watched them try to do Muni Wi-Fi in their town. Going Nationwide? Not very likely.

Travis are you the one who created his own Google Adwords home page to collect a check from Google for doing searches?

I know what MAAWG is (http://www.maawg.org - do they actually DO anything?) but CEAS???

- Peter @ RAD-INFO


Travis Johnson wrote:
And thus you just hit the nail on the head... and it brings us back full circle to the original subject of this thread...

Google is going to bid on 700mhz spectrum... billions of dollars... then, once they own it, they are going to start some type of wireless internet service using that spectrum... and then, they WILL be competing directly with all the ISP's. And, they will probably give the service away FREE, just like they do now with their WiFi service. Can you compete with FREE service, using 700mhz NLOS technology (meaning self-install, take the modem with you to work type service)?

So, now who's your friend? They have a huge recurring income from the search engine, so they don't have to make a dime on other services... gmail, Google Earth, etc. are all examples. They will just add 700mhz wireless to the list of "free" things they provide.

Travis
Microserv

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