Hi,
Maybe you need to read my posts a little better... I think I have said
it twice already, but I will say it again:
I am not after Google, nor am I saying they are "evil". What I am saying
is there is a grand plan already in place with this 700mhz auction they
are considering. They have the money and the means to do just about
anything they want with it. We just need to keep our eyes open. The
telco's already own a great deal of spectrum, so another 20mhz really
isn't going to matter much. They don't know what they are doing, why
would it change now?
And, I'll say it again... The telco's don't scare me. Qwest offers
$19.95 DSL packages right now... our cheapest wireless plan is $39.95,
yet we continue to take people away from Qwest. Will I ever be as big as
they are? No. But I will continue to pick up the people that HATE the
telco and cableco, and that business alone will keep me in business for
a long, long time. ;)
We understand the phone company sold you DSL for twice what it sold to
the customer... but again, why does that matter here? The day they
started doing that was the same day you should have been installing
wireless to all of your existing customers. We have had Qwest literally
take a customer away from us while all three of us were conferenced on a
call for support. That is against their company policy, especially when
we called their "safe line" for ISP's. But there isn't a damn thing you
can do about it, so you just move on. :)
Travis
Microserv
Michael Erskine wrote:
Ten years is a good run, Travis.
I wish you would listen to what I post rather than figure out some
"smart" response.
You have whined and whined about Google, yet you feel that the ILECs
are not
a threat.
Besides the fact that you won a legal battle or two, you have no
reason not to
appropriate the *facts*. Yet you choose not to do that.
Ok, help yourself. Go tilt at the Google windmill but while you do
that, maybe
you will check six once in a while? Because "6" is FTTH and 700 MHz
in the
hands of the ILECs. You may not believe that, and I personally could
give a
RATZ hinderst parts one way or the other, but put it in your note book
and
come back to me in two years... There are a lot of folks here who
will tell you
that I am not often wrong ... even though they don't like me worth a
damn.
Choose your enemies however you want. Me, I think I will choose mine
with a dash of common sense.
-m-
Travis Johnson wrote:
I figured it out a long time ago.... wireless internet.... go around
the big bad phone company... since 1997. :)
Travis
Microserv
Michael Erskine wrote:
Try filing a suit for taking your customers... :-\
You won't win that one. They have the same sort of pockets you fear
in Google, except that they have already proven they will sell you
DSL at twice the price they will offer retail...
When we started reselling Verizon DSL we paid them "whole sale"
because the FCC said that they had to let us buy at whole sale.
Wholesale to us was $23.95. Retail to their
customers was $14.95 with a one year commitment. Then the FCC
decided that they did not have to let us buy at wholesale...
You frigure it out. ;)
-m-
Travis Johnson wrote:
I don't fear the ILEC's... they are regulated and can be easily
sued. We have sued Qwest twice and won both times... once for slow
delivery of new lines and another time for billing errors.
Travis
Microserv
Michael J. Erskine wrote:
Travis Johnson wrote:
Yes, I remember the dark fiber... and so, the question remains,
how much fiber did they buy? They are now bidding on 700mhz
spectrum, and could connect everything back to their main
datacenters with all the dark fiber they purchased previously. ;)
And I never said they were "Evil" (which is funny that everyone
is using that term when it is Google's company moto to "Do no
Evil")... all I am saying is we need to keep our eyes open and
watch what is going on... if the telco's buy the 700mhz, nobody
really cares... they will use it for cell phone or higher speed
mobile services...
No, They will use it to deliver broadband in direct competition to
you. The telco's have figured out that their future rests in
broadband and not POTS.
but if Google buys it, they will offer internet service really,
really cheap or for free. They are making BILLIONS of dollars
profit every year without doing anything...
They are organizing data. They are selling advertizing space.
CBS does that. NBC does that. CNN does that. It is not nothing.
so they really have a lot of money they can throw at whatever
they want.
Good. I am all for competitors to the ILECs and I sincerely hope
that Google gets some of that spectrum and offers the public a
third option...
Let's run some quick numbers... just for the fun of it...
700mhz Access Point at roughly $2,000 each
700mhz CPE at roughly $200 each
Let's use a 50:1 ratio of CPE to AP, so it would be $12,000 for
each AP/CPE combo. They would be able to charge something for the
CPE, so that money can be used for other tower expenses (UPS,
switches, etc.). Using only their profit for a single MONTH, they
could put up 83,000 access points and deliver 4.1 million CPE.
They could, almost instantly, become the single largest ISP in
the world.
Hey, and that would really level the playing field with the big
boys, wouldn't it?
It just gets scary when you actually realize that a BILLION is
one thousand MILLION dollars.
Yes but investors are investors, aren't they? Investors are often
hesitant to let a company explore new territory. They would not
be allowed to drop all their eggs in that one basket and they
could not put the infrastructure in place that fast either.
If you are looking for something to fear, fear the ILECs.
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