There are already companies out there doing self installed CPEs
successfully. It would be no different than setting up a TV set for OTA
reception.
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sam Tetherow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
Sent: Monday, July 23, 2007 1:37 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Google makes it official -- putting up $4.6 billion
Could you imagine tech support on 4.1 million self installed CPEs? If
every customer called once per year that would only be 11232 calls per day
;)
Sam Tetherow
Sandhills Wireless
Travis Johnson wrote:
Yes, I remember the dark fiber... and so, the question remains, how much
fiber did they buy? They are now bidding on 700mhz spectrum, and could
connect everything back to their main datacenters with all the dark fiber
they purchased previously. ;)
And I never said they were "Evil" (which is funny that everyone is using
that term when it is Google's company moto to "Do no Evil")... all I am
saying is we need to keep our eyes open and watch what is going on... if
the telco's buy the 700mhz, nobody really cares... they will use it for
cell phone or higher speed mobile services... but if Google buys it, they
will offer internet service really, really cheap or for free. They are
making BILLIONS of dollars profit every year without doing anything... so
they really have a lot of money they can throw at whatever they want.
Let's run some quick numbers... just for the fun of it...
700mhz Access Point at roughly $2,000 each
700mhz CPE at roughly $200 each
Let's use a 50:1 ratio of CPE to AP, so it would be $12,000 for each
AP/CPE combo. They would be able to charge something for the CPE, so that
money can be used for other tower expenses (UPS, switches, etc.). Using
only their profit for a single MONTH, they could put up 83,000 access
points and deliver 4.1 million CPE. They could, almost instantly, become
the single largest ISP in the world.
It just gets scary when you actually realize that a BILLION is one
thousand MILLION dollars.
Travis
Microserv
Peter R. wrote:
Remember when Google was buying up dark fiber?
It scared everyone.
Now Google is going to bid on spectrum IF a bunch of conditions are met.
Those conditions will NOT be met. (Have you forgotten who chairs the
FCC?)
So it is probably just a ploy.
And if they DO win some spectrum, the rules will be that it has to be
Wholesale - so anyone can sell on it.
Google will be on top until they screw up. Like Yahoo. Like AltaVista.
Like Excite. Like Lycos. Like Ask.
They make money because they are the most used search engine. Not the
best. The most used. So that is where advertising dollars go. It can
change. It often does.
BTW, Google will peer with you for free. SO if 44% of your bandwidth is
for Google, they just saved you on IP bamdwidth costs. Anyone else doing
that?
I can't believe I am agreeing with Mike E. but I don't see them as any
more evil than any other company.
And having watched them try to do Muni Wi-Fi in their town. Going
Nationwide? Not very likely.
Travis are you the one who created his own Google Adwords home page to
collect a check from Google for doing searches?
I know what MAAWG is (http://www.maawg.org - do they actually DO
anything?) but CEAS???
- Peter @ RAD-INFO
Travis Johnson wrote:
And thus you just hit the nail on the head... and it brings us back
full circle to the original subject of this thread...
Google is going to bid on 700mhz spectrum... billions of dollars...
then, once they own it, they are going to start some type of wireless
internet service using that spectrum... and then, they WILL be
competing directly with all the ISP's. And, they will probably give the
service away FREE, just like they do now with their WiFi service. Can
you compete with FREE service, using 700mhz NLOS technology (meaning
self-install, take the modem with you to work type service)?
So, now who's your friend? They have a huge recurring income from the
search engine, so they don't have to make a dime on other services...
gmail, Google Earth, etc. are all examples. They will just add 700mhz
wireless to the list of "free" things they provide.
Travis
Microserv
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