Come on, you guys that sell "slow" broadband generaly don't have too
much to worry about. It's not like if you got an ap that does 10 megs
and you sell 50 512k subs that the one or three out of 20 running p2p is
going to be very noticable.
Try giving those 50 equal access to the full 10 megs and see what
happens then, if you don't throttle the p2p.
Travis Johnson wrote:
Hi,
If your network can't handle a small amount of p2p
traffic, you have bigger issues. :)
Travis
Microserv
George Rogato wrote:
How do you cap the encrypted stuff?
Travis Johnson wrote:
Hi,
First let me say that we cap p2p traffic during the business day, but
otherwise we let it run wide open. However, we sell our connections
based on speed. Whatever they pay for is what they get... none of
this burstable stuff, etc. If they want 512k, they pay for 512k. If
they want 1meg, they pay for 1meg.
The problem with bandwidth caps of xx gigs per month is that NOBODY
else is doing it... not DSL, not Cable, not any of my wireless
competitors, etc. Once you start putting that limitation on their
connection, they will start switching to something that does not have
caps. If you have bandwidth limits in place already, there is no need
for the monthly limits. (This does not mean we allow 24x7 bandwidth
usage, but we allow "reasonable" usage).
Travis
Microserv
George Rogato wrote:
I think the way to go is to be able to identify the various types of
traffic and rate limit them.
And once we can do this, then it's time to pull out the menu of
various offerings we can provide.
Want a 3 meg x 3 meg burstable connection with a sustained traffic
rate of 1meg x 256k and bandwidth cap of x gigs, it's price "a",
want a higher something in your package, it's price "b". Want
something different, then it's price "c".
The sub can choose. Once they choose they know what they bought.
Mark Nash wrote:
This is a good debate.
What you mention here, George, is something that's been on my mind
for the
last year or so. As Lingo/Slingbox/Netflix/Vonage/etc/etc/etc make
$$$ off
of our connections, where's our cut? The customer is paying for a
connection, yes, but at what point do we start charging more as
this content
proliferates through our networks? Bandwidth is getting cheaper
per meg,
you can get a bigger pipe for less per meg, you can do things to
lower the
cost of bandwidth.
However, that should give US a better cash flow model, so we're not so
squeezed out that we feel like not providing service anymore to
folks who
desperately want it. With more and more apps providing
high-throughput
content, it could easily offset the savings that can be realized by
going
with a bigger/cheaper pipe. IF IT IS UNCHECKED.
My whole part in this discussion has been focused on not letting our
customers cost us more than they are paying us, and I still say that
deploying a system that allows us to be compensated for heavy usage
is a
valuable consideration in any business plan for an ISP. Bandwidth
shaping,
bandwidth caps, bill for overages, dedicated bandwidth option. If
you have
this in place, you really need not worry about anything else with
respect to
high bandwidth usage.
IMHO.
Thanks everyone for listening to my half-rant. I'm going to get
something
done now. ;)
Mark Nash
UnwiredOnline.Net
350 Holly Street
Junction City, OR 97448
http://www.uwol.net
541-998-5555
541-998-5599 fax
----- Original Message ----- From: "George Rogato"
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To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 8:51 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Vuze / Comcast / Peer to Peer / FCC
Another thought is
Why wouldn't Vuze have to pay Comcast for using the Comcast
network to
support it's business plan.
If they are relying on Comcasts network to store and send files to
it's
customer base, why should they be treated for a free ride instead of
using a hosting provider like Akamia.
Guess that is just as a significant point as any other, the fair
compensation for services?
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