I can't understand why there's all this discussion of PtP...  aren't there 
already MANY bands established for PtP, including some (6 GHz) that have 
quite some range to them?


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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com



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From: "Tom DeReggi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 9:27 PM
To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
Subject: Re: [WISPA] My favorite quotes from the FCC TVWS meeting today...

> Butch,
>
>> Then, the "music" turned to "noise"....
>
> You hit the nail right on the head, with your comment.
>
> They talked up broadband, but then gave us Personal portable instead, and
> said, "but we really need to consider PTP, CLECs and Carriers are also a
> very important part of broadband delivery"..
>
> The problem was not the WISPA messengers or message, Jack, Steve and FCC
> committee did an awesome job, about as good as humanly possible. But the
> commission obviously was not listening, or chose to ignore us. What was
> clear is that they hear Google and Microsoft loud and clear. Atleast, we
> know where we stand now.
>
> We also have a focused goal moving forward. The rules are still easy to 
> fix,
> if the FCC will allow it.  All they have to do is waive the magic wand and
> change "100mw" to "4w" (at least for non-adjacent channels), and it'll be
> fixed. We can survive in UNlicensed we've done it from day one, but we 
> can't
> survive without adequate power.
>
> Tom DeReggi
> RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Butch Evans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Wispa List" <wireless@wispa.org>
> Cc: "WISPA Members List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 9:34 PM
> Subject: [WISPA] My favorite quotes from the FCC TVWS meeting today...
>
>
>> Commissioner Adelstein has long been a pretty good friend of our
>> industry.  In truth, I have not always agreed with him, but
>> in his comments today he made a couple of statements that were
>> "music to my ears".  Then, the "music" turned to "noise"....
>>
>> "White spaces are the blank pages on which we will write our
>> broadband future."
>>
>> I can't agree more.  He also said:
>>
>> "Today’s decision is consequential to our nation’s future because
>> wireless broadband has the potential to improve our economy and
>> quality of life in even the remotest areas."
>>
>> Again, when I heard this, I thought he must REALLY "get it".  Then,
>> he went on to say this:
>>
>> "Unlicensed spectrum holds by far the most promise for maximizing
>> the use of white spaces. Our balanced approach in this order
>> provides the flexibility and low barriers to entry needed to provide
>> an opportunity for everyone to make the best use of this under-used
>> spectrum. It also implements safeguards to protect those that
>> already make valuable use of the spectrum."
>>
>> WHAT?  The "most promise"?  I'm not horribly disappointed about the
>> overall likely outcome of the rules, but how can he think that
>> unlicensed at 100mW is going to "maximize the use" of anything?
>> Unlicensed used has not been bad for us as WISPs in the past, but
>> these power levels will not give us anywhere near the useful
>> spectrum that the WISPA suggested "licensed lite" approach could
>> have offered.  I won't continue in disecting his statement since
>> most of it was not something I am very positive about.
>>
>> All talk today centered around point-to-point deployments and
>> nothing about ptmp.  This is not a perfect scenario, but it's not a
>> total loss.  I strongly suggest that all interested parties (that's
>> you if you are a WISP) at least read the statements and news release
>> at http://www.fcc.gov/ and see for yourself.
>>
>> I don't think the decisions were a total loss.  We did get
>> geolocation, which is very important to WISPA's position.  We also
>> got adjacent channel space, which was very unexpected.  The only
>> real problems I see are the lack of sufficient power, which is
>> because they chose unlicensed over license lite.  Our FCC committee
>> worked very hard to get us to this point.  I don't think any of us
>> realize how much time Jack Unger and Steve Coran put into this issue
>> on our behalf over the past 2-3 weeks.  If you have not personally
>> thanked them, you really should take a minute to do so.
>>
>> My personal take on this is that they wanted to do "something" but
>> not too much.  I think I sense a "new battleground" forming when the
>> new commission takes over next year.  It is for this reason, that I
>> urge ALL OF YOU (me, too) to do 3 things over the next few months:
>>
>> 1. If you are not already, become a WISPA member.  We would not be
>> at this point without your financial support.
>>
>> 2. If you have not already done so, become familiar with WHY the
>> TVWS are (or will be) beneficial to you and your network.  This will
>> prepare you for the upcoming fight.
>>
>> 3. Join the debates which are sure to come over the next few weeks
>> to help WISPA prepare to continue the fight for this most valuable
>> of spectrums for our cause.
>>
>> -- 
>> ********************************************************************
>> * Butch Evans * Professional Network Consultation*
>> * http://www.butchevans.com/ * Network Engineering    *
>> * http://www.wispa.org/ * WISPA Board Member    *
>> * http://blog.butchevans.com/ * Wired or Wireless Networks    *
>> ********************************************************************
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