As much as I'd love to be able to use smaller antennas than 6' with 6GHz that is a real bad idea. It's hard enough finding an available 6GHz freq pair in some areas today. Allowing smaller antennas would likely mean even fewer available freq pairs.
Best, Brad -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 3:06 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] My favorite quotes from the FCC TVWS meeting today... Yes. A bettter use of time and spectrum is to fight for smaller antennas to be allowed on 6Ghz. Sorta like what was jsut done to 11Ghz. The 6ft requirement is a preventer for many. But that argument doesn;t hold for Whitespace as Whitespace antennas would be bigger.. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Hammett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 8:12 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] My favorite quotes from the FCC TVWS meeting today... >I can't understand why there's all this discussion of PtP... aren't there > already MANY bands established for PtP, including some (6 GHz) that have > quite some range to them? > > > ---------- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Tom DeReggi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 9:27 PM > To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] My favorite quotes from the FCC TVWS meeting today... > >> Butch, >> >>> Then, the "music" turned to "noise".... >> >> You hit the nail right on the head, with your comment. >> >> They talked up broadband, but then gave us Personal portable instead, and >> said, "but we really need to consider PTP, CLECs and Carriers are also a >> very important part of broadband delivery".. >> >> The problem was not the WISPA messengers or message, Jack, Steve and FCC >> committee did an awesome job, about as good as humanly possible. But the >> commission obviously was not listening, or chose to ignore us. What was >> clear is that they hear Google and Microsoft loud and clear. Atleast, we >> know where we stand now. >> >> We also have a focused goal moving forward. The rules are still easy to >> fix, >> if the FCC will allow it. All they have to do is waive the magic wand >> and >> change "100mw" to "4w" (at least for non-adjacent channels), and it'll be >> fixed. We can survive in UNlicensed we've done it from day one, but we >> can't >> survive without adequate power. >> >> Tom DeReggi >> RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc >> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Butch Evans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "Wispa List" <wireless@wispa.org> >> Cc: "WISPA Members List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 9:34 PM >> Subject: [WISPA] My favorite quotes from the FCC TVWS meeting today... >> >> >>> Commissioner Adelstein has long been a pretty good friend of our >>> industry. In truth, I have not always agreed with him, but >>> in his comments today he made a couple of statements that were >>> "music to my ears". Then, the "music" turned to "noise".... >>> >>> "White spaces are the blank pages on which we will write our >>> broadband future." >>> >>> I can't agree more. He also said: >>> >>> "Today?s decision is consequential to our nation?s future because >>> wireless broadband has the potential to improve our economy and >>> quality of life in even the remotest areas." >>> >>> Again, when I heard this, I thought he must REALLY "get it". Then, >>> he went on to say this: >>> >>> "Unlicensed spectrum holds by far the most promise for maximizing >>> the use of white spaces. Our balanced approach in this order >>> provides the flexibility and low barriers to entry needed to provide >>> an opportunity for everyone to make the best use of this under-used >>> spectrum. It also implements safeguards to protect those that >>> already make valuable use of the spectrum." >>> >>> WHAT? The "most promise"? I'm not horribly disappointed about the >>> overall likely outcome of the rules, but how can he think that >>> unlicensed at 100mW is going to "maximize the use" of anything? >>> Unlicensed used has not been bad for us as WISPs in the past, but >>> these power levels will not give us anywhere near the useful >>> spectrum that the WISPA suggested "licensed lite" approach could >>> have offered. I won't continue in disecting his statement since >>> most of it was not something I am very positive about. >>> >>> All talk today centered around point-to-point deployments and >>> nothing about ptmp. This is not a perfect scenario, but it's not a >>> total loss. I strongly suggest that all interested parties (that's >>> you if you are a WISP) at least read the statements and news release >>> at http://www.fcc.gov/ and see for yourself. >>> >>> I don't think the decisions were a total loss. We did get >>> geolocation, which is very important to WISPA's position. We also >>> got adjacent channel space, which was very unexpected. The only >>> real problems I see are the lack of sufficient power, which is >>> because they chose unlicensed over license lite. Our FCC committee >>> worked very hard to get us to this point. I don't think any of us >>> realize how much time Jack Unger and Steve Coran put into this issue >>> on our behalf over the past 2-3 weeks. If you have not personally >>> thanked them, you really should take a minute to do so. >>> >>> My personal take on this is that they wanted to do "something" but >>> not too much. I think I sense a "new battleground" forming when the >>> new commission takes over next year. It is for this reason, that I >>> urge ALL OF YOU (me, too) to do 3 things over the next few months: >>> >>> 1. If you are not already, become a WISPA member. We would not be >>> at this point without your financial support. >>> >>> 2. If you have not already done so, become familiar with WHY the >>> TVWS are (or will be) beneficial to you and your network. This will >>> prepare you for the upcoming fight. >>> >>> 3. Join the debates which are sure to come over the next few weeks >>> to help WISPA prepare to continue the fight for this most valuable >>> of spectrums for our cause. >>> >>> -- >>> ******************************************************************** >>> * Butch Evans * Professional Network Consultation* >>> * http://www.butchevans.com/ * Network Engineering * >>> * http://www.wispa.org/ * WISPA Board Member * >>> * http://blog.butchevans.com/ * Wired or Wireless Networks * >>> ******************************************************************** >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- >> >> >>> >>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- >>> WISPA Wants You! 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