I don't question the value of Leasing for a second. I just think that it is 
to hard to get Leasing.
WISPs should not be considered any more HIGH risk than any other business. 
In today's economy WISPs are doing better than many other industries, and 
the demand is still growing daily.

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Travis Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 9:36 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Client Speeds


> Hi,
>
> Yes, you still have to pay for it... but instead of being upside down
> with the customer for the first 3-6 months (depending on equipment), you
> begin making money on that customer from day 1. So you no longer worry
> about "do I have enough money to buy the equipment to install that
> customer" and instead can focus on "get as many customers installed as
> quickly as possible".
>
> Also, by buying 250 units at a time, you get a much better price on the
> equipment... which sometimes can even out the extra you pay by financing.
>
> Travis
> Microserv
>
> Steve Barnes wrote:
>> I guess maybe I am old school but leasing the CPE just makes it so that
>> the monthly fee has to pay the CPE cost instead of the install.  You
>> still have to pay for it.  It may make cash flow easier but the ROI
>> takes longer due to interest rates and labor dealing with lease Co.
>> Can you help me with that one.
>>
>>
>>
>> Steve
>>
>>
>>
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
>> Behalf Of Travis Johnson
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 11:45 PM
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Client Speeds
>>
>>
>>
>> Honestly, the fastest way to grow is to lease your CPE. Then the install
>> fee covers your cost on every install, and you aren't "upside down" on
>> every new customer.
>>
>> Travis
>> Microserv
>>
>> Chuck McCown - 3 wrote:
>>
>> You are doing it.  Just keep bootstrapping.  Once you get 1000
>> subscribers
>> things will be a bit better.
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Steve Barnes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
>> <mailto:wireless@wispa.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 7:32 PM
>> Subject: [WISPA] Client Speeds
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I have read many post on this list about how much bandwidth
>> different
>> WISP offer.  I want to discuss that as well as the recommended
>> equipment
>> that is so often discussed on this list.
>>
>>
>>
>> I am a startup.  Little to no startup capital.  I had to pinch
>> each
>> penny to get as much as possible out of it.  My goal was to
>> service the
>> clients no one wanted in a county that had no Fiber or DSL other
>> that
>> what Verizon holds hostage.  So now after 2 years I have 8
>> towers with
>> 320 clients.
>>
>>
>>
>> The service I offer is a $39.99 basic level 640k x 256k and a
>> $59.99 Pro
>> Level 1M x 512k.  You guys are talking about 10Mb.  If I turn
>> off the
>> speed control on AP's and let people play I don't get over 3.5M
>> on any
>> of them. ( 2.4 MT or StarOS, and Tranzeo CPE's) I use a StarOS
>> Full
>> Duplex Link to Backhaul to a Fiber connection that I Share cost
>> of with
>> another WISP my size.  The investment I would have to make to
>> achieve
>> 10MB to each client is financially Impossible.
>>
>>
>>
>> Surely some of you big guys out there have been in my shoes.
>> What do
>> you recommend a small WISP in my situation to do in the future.
>>
>>
>>
>> Please don't start with the statement, "How you should have
>> started you
>> service".  I was providing a solution.  So this is what I have
>> and I
>> know of at least 6 other small WISP's on this list who are in
>> the same
>> boat.
>>
>>
>>
>> So BIG GUYS think back.  How do I grow into new BROADBAND
>> definition
>> without rebuilding my network from the ground up.  What is
>> everyone
>> charging and what does the client get for that price.  Financing
>> is not
>> readily available and the Boss hopes to one day get some ROI.
>> No
>> Grants available and no big group wanting to invest or challenge
>> Verizon.
>>
>>
>>
>> Steve Barnes
>>
>> RC-WiFi.com
>>
>>
>>
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