You would think that this would bring down the risk factor. 

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Tom DeReggi wrote:
> I don't question the value of Leasing for a second. I just think that it is 
> to hard to get Leasing.
> WISPs should not be considered any more HIGH risk than any other business. 
> In today's economy WISPs are doing better than many other industries, and 
> the demand is still growing daily.
>
> Tom DeReggi
> RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Travis Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
> Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 9:36 AM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Client Speeds
>
>
>   
>> Hi,
>>
>> Yes, you still have to pay for it... but instead of being upside down
>> with the customer for the first 3-6 months (depending on equipment), you
>> begin making money on that customer from day 1. So you no longer worry
>> about "do I have enough money to buy the equipment to install that
>> customer" and instead can focus on "get as many customers installed as
>> quickly as possible".
>>
>> Also, by buying 250 units at a time, you get a much better price on the
>> equipment... which sometimes can even out the extra you pay by financing.
>>
>> Travis
>> Microserv
>>
>> Steve Barnes wrote:
>>     
>>> I guess maybe I am old school but leasing the CPE just makes it so that
>>> the monthly fee has to pay the CPE cost instead of the install.  You
>>> still have to pay for it.  It may make cash flow easier but the ROI
>>> takes longer due to interest rates and labor dealing with lease Co.
>>> Can you help me with that one.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Steve
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
>>> Behalf Of Travis Johnson
>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 11:45 PM
>>> To: WISPA General List
>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Client Speeds
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Honestly, the fastest way to grow is to lease your CPE. Then the install
>>> fee covers your cost on every install, and you aren't "upside down" on
>>> every new customer.
>>>
>>> Travis
>>> Microserv
>>>
>>> Chuck McCown - 3 wrote:
>>>
>>> You are doing it.  Just keep bootstrapping.  Once you get 1000
>>> subscribers
>>> things will be a bit better.
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Steve Barnes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
>>> <mailto:wireless@wispa.org>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 7:32 PM
>>> Subject: [WISPA] Client Speeds
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I have read many post on this list about how much bandwidth
>>> different
>>> WISP offer.  I want to discuss that as well as the recommended
>>> equipment
>>> that is so often discussed on this list.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I am a startup.  Little to no startup capital.  I had to pinch
>>> each
>>> penny to get as much as possible out of it.  My goal was to
>>> service the
>>> clients no one wanted in a county that had no Fiber or DSL other
>>> that
>>> what Verizon holds hostage.  So now after 2 years I have 8
>>> towers with
>>> 320 clients.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The service I offer is a $39.99 basic level 640k x 256k and a
>>> $59.99 Pro
>>> Level 1M x 512k.  You guys are talking about 10Mb.  If I turn
>>> off the
>>> speed control on AP's and let people play I don't get over 3.5M
>>> on any
>>> of them. ( 2.4 MT or StarOS, and Tranzeo CPE's) I use a StarOS
>>> Full
>>> Duplex Link to Backhaul to a Fiber connection that I Share cost
>>> of with
>>> another WISP my size.  The investment I would have to make to
>>> achieve
>>> 10MB to each client is financially Impossible.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Surely some of you big guys out there have been in my shoes.
>>> What do
>>> you recommend a small WISP in my situation to do in the future.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Please don't start with the statement, "How you should have
>>> started you
>>> service".  I was providing a solution.  So this is what I have
>>> and I
>>> know of at least 6 other small WISP's on this list who are in
>>> the same
>>> boat.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> So BIG GUYS think back.  How do I grow into new BROADBAND
>>> definition
>>> without rebuilding my network from the ground up.  What is
>>> everyone
>>> charging and what does the client get for that price.  Financing
>>> is not
>>> readily available and the Boss hopes to one day get some ROI.
>>> No
>>> Grants available and no big group wanting to invest or challenge
>>> Verizon.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Steve Barnes
>>>
>>> RC-WiFi.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
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