We utilize both muni and private locations for wireless sites. Private is by far the easiest to work with. Everyone shares the same goals, the organizational leaders change less frequently. There is less politics, things happen faster.
We can not avoid dealing with municipalities though. I often wish I didn't have to deal with them. Some are great, others are more challenging, some I wouldn't even attempt a project in their town if it meant getting their permission to do something. On Tue, Mar 03, 2009 at 12:28:06PM -0500, Tom DeReggi wrote: > Mike, > > I have had significant experience in numerous initial phase projects to > encourage working with local government. > For example, in my county access to watertowers was supposed to be free, in > exchange for new tower errection restrictions in the community. > However, I do not have any muni related documents to share. The reason is I > took a different path in the past. > I immediately learned that I hated beurocracy, and had little patients to > spend precious time justifying to officials the value of my presence, and > what I want. Free colocation was becomming to costly, and to slow and > tedious of a process, for me. Based on the markets that I was targeting, I > had many options in front of me. I chose the path to negotiate with private > tower companies and landlords, so I could quickly get things done. I also > wanted many significant protection, that was hard to get, when bartering > access. I also wanted PRIME realestate, and the counties didn't own it, in > my markets. I pay for everything. But I negotiate everything well down to > the lowest dollar, based on real market pressures and options. I go to a > prospect, with what I want to pay, what my options are, and why they should > give me my price. And if they don't give it, I dont do business with them, > because I know I can get my price elsewhere. > > But there are MANY WISPs on this list, that probably do have docs and > relationships with their local muni, and I'm sure someone will step up to > share Documents that you are looking for.. > > > Tom DeReggi > RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc > IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Michael Baird" <m...@tc3net.com> > To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> > Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 11:57 AM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tower colocation request > > > > Tom, > > > > Thanks this is just the sort of information I was looking for. I was > > also looking for maybe some notes or documentation from someone who's > > done the presentation dance in front of the municipality. > > > > Regards > > Michael Baird > >> The goal is to learn what the muni's objective is. Their objective is > >> not > >> always to enable broadband expansion. > >> Sometimes a small town cares more about generating a new source of > >> revenue. > >> Your goal is to changed the perspective that they'll want to charge you > >> $2000/month to co-locate, to one that they want to give you space for > >> free, > >> because of the economic development need to the community to deliver > >> broadband. You'll want to be friend influencial people in the community, > >> and get them excited about broadband. > >> > >> You'll want to document competence for the water tower work. Address > >> concerns for safety, cosmetic appeal, and potential damage to the water > >> tower. You'll want to document insurance. But mostly, you'll want to > >> document the need for your services in the community. And you'll want to > >> offer a "direct benefit" to the town government as well. (For example, > >> inkind trade worth of broadband service to a few key public venues). > >> > >> You'll also want to research the zoning options for constructing towers, > >> so > >> you know what your alternatives are, if the town board is not > >> cooperative. > >> > >> Make sure you have a long term agreement to co-locate.(For example 5 > >> years > >> renewable for up to 20 years.) > >> > >> Make sure your agreement has first-in non-intererence clauses, > >> specifiying > >> the spectrum ranges that you will be using. > >> > >> Tom DeReggi > >> RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc > >> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband > >> > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Michael Baird" <m...@tc3net.com> > >> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> > >> Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 11:49 AM > >> Subject: [WISPA] Tower colocation request > >> > >> > >> > >>> Hi guys, we are looking to deploy a wifi system on a local water tower > >>> to service and underserved area. This will be our first experience > >>> dealing with a new municipality and we have it slated for a board > >>> agenda. I was wondering if there were standard proposals out there to > >>> use, or if someone had an example they were willing to share, of what > >>> information they provide to the municipality, or what to pay attention > >>> to when trying to get space on the tower. > >>> > >>> Regards > >>> Michael Baird > >>> > >>> > >>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>> WISPA Wants You! 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