I would argue slightly different.... 1) There are some that think the technology is really cool, because they read the spec sheet, but also think it is over priced, so therefore never deploy it, and never really know. EVerything you read about WiMax is exciting from a tech perspective.
2) Then there are the other people who pay more for a product than some think it is worth, and deploy it, and learn first hand the negative things about the product, and what features are overspec'd, but would never disclose their findings publically, as it would only bring attention to the fact that their product offering is not as good as their own marketing says it is. My point being, its hard to get a straight answer from someone that 1) hasn't used it, or 2) someone that currently standardized on using it. Either way, the opinion is biased, and has vested interests to protect. What you really need to find is someone that tried it long enough, but then decided not to keep using it. They will probably have the real deal scope on things. If you can't find that person, maybe WiMax is good as they say it is :-) In our case, we did 5.8Ghz Pre-WiMax gear trials 4 years ago, and it was a failure here in the DC market. Trango (non-WiMax) proved to be a much better solution for that market, from our perspective. I really would have liked to see how much better official current generation WiMax worked or improved. Unfortuneately I'm in a no 3650 zone. :-( I don't think there is any confusion on whether WiMax is the best of class out there. Its strictly an ROI/affordabilty question, in which some are willing to pay for the benefits. Respectfully, Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt Liotta" <mlio...@r337.com> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 2:01 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3650Mhz and Wimax Vendors > Those of us operators who actually have experience in the field with > the gear tend to avoid posting to threads about WiMAX because the > threads quickly devolve. I suggest you read the archives of this > mailing list. To summarize though; operators who use WiMAX like it and > think the technology is actually different and better than what else > is out there. The people who don't use WiMAX think it is overpriced > and not particularly interesting. > > -Matt > > On Apr 22, 2009, at 1:41 PM, Charles Wyble wrote: > >> I'm looking for more operational experience and end user experience. >> Certainly good technology contributes to that, but that isn't my >> primary >> goal. >> >> >> Michael Baird wrote: >>> It was interesting, but I was hoping for some more first hand >>> experience >>> reporting. Essentially the only explanation for improved range was a >>> lower noise floor, which isn't a wimax thing, but a 3.65 thing. I >>> think >>> a lot of the 802.16d/e talk is market speak, I'm trying to get >>> through >>> that and establish technical reasons why one or the other is >>> superior. >>> >>> Regards >>> Michael Baird >>>> So the recent thread on Wimax was quite interesting. I need to >>>> read up >>>> on the different technologies involved. I believe that a fixed >>>> deployment is sufficient for many many many needs and markets >>>> (wireless >>>> local loop if you will). If people want mobility/end user wireless >>>> they >>>> can hang an 802.11 AP off the ethernet port of whatever CPE. Wimax >>>> directly to the end device doesn't make much sense to me, in most >>>> markets and use cases. Obviously if you are supporting a highly >>>> mobile >>>> workforce (say public sector type stuff) then it makes a lot more >>>> sense. >>>> >>>> It got me thinking... if one was a new WISP entering an >>>> un(der)served >>>> market, it seems that it would not make sense to deploy standard >>>> 802.11 >>>> gear, but rather Wimax gear in 3650Mhz. Is this an accurate >>>> assessment? >>>> >>>> One particular area that I'm targeting, doesn't have any broadband >>>> available (other then 3g from Verzion). So they would need to >>>> purchase >>>> CPE anyway, and it wouldn't be anything they could get from Best Buy >>>> (DSL or Cable modem). >>>> >>>> I'm in the process of negotiating access to the excluded areas (in >>>> Southern California), but it's been slow going. Once I gain access >>>> it >>>> will open up many areas to some sorely needed competition. >>>> >>>> So who are the vendors in this space worth considering? >>>> What are peoples experiences with the sales process (both pre and >>>> post >>>> sales engineering) >>>> etc etc. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> WISPA Wants You! 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