lol Good to hear. Simple fix: get different CPE. :) On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 7:54 PM, Jeff Booher <jefftho...@fastmail.fm> wrote:
> FYI Ben, we are finally fixing ( or fixed ) that issue with running as a > service and now have > A version for oracle. Sorry tranzeo is 00gly :) > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Charles Wyble > Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 3:40 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3650Mhz and Wimax Vendors > > This is what I'm looking for. Thank you!! > > Ben Wiechman wrote: > > We've looked at several different vendors for WiMAX and have been > > running Alvarion in 2.5GHz for almost 18 months now. Aperto seems to > > have a decent RF platform, as does Redline and Alvarion. We had two > > main issues with > > Aperto: ugly Tranzeo CPE and their EMS. Maybe some things have changed > > by the EMS was required to configure each base station and MS as it > > entered the network, however ran only on windows and didn't run as a > > service. So one clown closing the window and your network was dead in > > the water. Redline appears to have a solid product as well as does > Alvarion. > > > > As was stated earlier the biggest reason to look at WiMAX is for > > differentiated services. If voice or a high quality data play is in > > your business plan it makes sense. If you are suffering from > > interference issues, and spectrum is becoming much more polluted > > everywhere, so 3650 does help in that regard. > > > > With access to 2.5GHz spectrum for us WiMAX was an option we > > considered purely for the penetration. The bulk of our subscriber base > > was only accessible using 900MHz access points, and we quickly outgrew > > the capacity of the Canopy APs we have been using and also are > > suffering increasingly from interference from a number of sources: > > RFID, baby monitors, a couple lingering paging companies, GPS > > correction for farming, saturation due to excessive numbers of Access > > POints to try to meet bandwidth demands, etc. We also didn't feel that > > we would be able to offer services other than basic broadband access > > across the Canopy platform. The 16e standard is valuable for us due to > > the penetration provided by MIMO and beamforming that are available > > within the standard. We could care less about the mobility (and added > overhead) but its hard to get one without the other. > > > > If you've got clean spectrum and are only looking to deploy basic data > > access WiMAX probably doesn't make sense. If you have access to > > licensed spectrum, want to deploy differentiated services, or are > > looking at 3650 WiMAX may make sense. 16d will have less overhead and > > less cost: the complexities of the mobile platform are not there, nor > > do you need additional network components like an ASN-GW, and > > typically provisioning is greatly simplified. The problem you run into > > on the 16e side is that every vendor is only thinking about Clearwire > > and not considering the WISP and the price point a WISP is able to > justify. > > > > Ben Wiechman > > Wisper High Speed Internet > > > > On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 4:30 PM, Pat O'Connor <p...@inlandnet.com> wrote: > > > >> Anybody use Airspan for Wimax? > >> > >> > >> > >> Michael Baird wrote: > >>> It was interesting, but I was hoping for some more first hand > >>> experience reporting. Essentially the only explanation for improved > >>> range was a lower noise floor, which isn't a wimax thing, but a 3.65 > >>> thing. I think a lot of the 802.16d/e talk is market speak, I'm > >>> trying to get through that and establish technical reasons why one or > the other is superior. > >>> > >>> Regards > >>> Michael Baird > >>> > >>>> So the recent thread on Wimax was quite interesting. I need to read > >>>> up on the different technologies involved. I believe that a fixed > >>>> deployment is sufficient for many many many needs and markets > >>>> (wireless local loop if you will). If people want mobility/end user > >>>> wireless they can hang an 802.11 AP off the ethernet port of > >>>> whatever CPE. Wimax directly to the end device doesn't make much > >>>> sense to me, in most markets and use cases. Obviously if you are > >>>> supporting a highly mobile workforce (say public sector type stuff) > then it makes a lot more sense. > >>>> > >>>> It got me thinking... if one was a new WISP entering an > >>>> un(der)served market, it seems that it would not make sense to > >>>> deploy standard 802.11 gear, but rather Wimax gear in 3650Mhz. Is this > an accurate assessment? > >>>> > >>>> One particular area that I'm targeting, doesn't have any broadband > >>>> available (other then 3g from Verzion). So they would need to > >>>> purchase CPE anyway, and it wouldn't be anything they could get > >>>> from Best Buy (DSL or Cable modem). > >>>> > >>>> I'm in the process of negotiating access to the excluded areas (in > >>>> Southern California), but it's been slow going. Once I gain access > >>>> it will open up many areas to some sorely needed competition. > >>>> > >>>> So who are the vendors in this space worth considering? > >>>> What are peoples experiences with the sales process (both pre and > >>>> post sales engineering) etc etc. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> ----------- > >>>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! > >>>> http://signup.wispa.org/ > >>>> > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> ----------- > >>>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > >>>> > >>>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > >>>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > >>>> > >>>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> ----------- > >>> WISPA Wants You! 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