I think in most states paying the bill obligates you to the terms of service/contract.
ryan Charles Wyble wrote: > Ah. Gotcha. > > Thanks for clarifying. > > RickG wrote: > >> Having an AUP is fine but it doesnt spell out the terms of a specific >> obligation between you & the end user. The big carriers obligate you >> to two year contracts when you agree online so I'm assuming we can do >> the same. >> -RickG >> >> >> On Sun, Jun 7, 2009 at 11:22 PM, Charles Wyble<char...@thewybles.com> wrote: >> >>> The big carriers don't require a signature on a contract. They also >>> don't do (free/near free) installs either. I don't know if there is a >>> signed contract if you pay for an install. >>> >>> Yes I realize this is a very important differentiator that we can >>> provide, however I don't feel a signed contract is necessary. An AUP is >>> an excellent idea as a general rule, however if they are transiting bits >>> on your network, you have the right and obligation to defend that >>> network. If you don't, you risk other operators dropping traffic from >>> your IP rnage /AS. >>> >>> >>> Your free to enforce your AUP with impunity. Failure to do so is the >>> sole reason that "bits of evil" reach our border routers. A few simple >>> route filters, and spam/botnets would be stopped. Subscribe to the Don't >>> Route Or Peer List from Spamhaus >>> (http://www.spamhaus.org/drop/index.lasso), and monitor outbound traffic. >>> >>> >>> *sighs* >>> >>> >>> >>> Martha Huizenga wrote: >>> >>>> Exactly, we send the contract with the install and then get it back when >>>> the install is done. Works fine. >>>> >>>> Jason Hensley wrote: >>>> >>>>> Wow. Seems like a waste of time and resources. If I mailed contracts >>>>> like >>>>> that here I'd lose half my install opportunities because they would never >>>>> send the contract back. Send a contract with the installer, get them to >>>>> sign it before they install, give one copy to customer, bring one back, >>>>> done >>>>> deal. If nothing else, get an electronic as an initial confirmation, then >>>>> get an actual signature at install. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >>>>> Behalf Of Scott Reed >>>>> Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2009 6:42 AM >>>>> To: WISPA General List >>>>> Subject: [WISPA] Electronic Signatures >>>>> >>>>> We currently use a two-year contract for customers. Right now we gather >>>>> the information, generate a contract, USMail it to the customer and wait >>>>> for them to USMail it back after they sign it before we schedule an >>>>> installation. We would like to reduce the time from initial contact to >>>>> installation. One option we are looking at is "electronic signature" on >>>>> the contract. We have done some research into doing this, but thought it >>>>> would be good to get some other input. >>>>> If you do electronic signatures, how do you do it? >>>>> If you use a third party to "certify" the signatures, who do you use? >>>>> What is good about them? What is not so good? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>>> http://signup.wispa.org/ >>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> >>>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >>>> >>>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>>> >>>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>>> >>>> >>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> WISPA Wants You! 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