Not recommending this brand... just found it on google http://www.absolutesource.com/products/specialty-cable-ties/stainless-steel/ standard/
I've never seen them on a tower. I hate to say it, but the cell guys do it right. Hangers are the way to go if you can afford the time and the cost of them: http://www.tessco.com/products/displayProducts.do?groupId=436&subgroupId=13 http://www.tessco.com/products/displayProducts.do?groupId=436&subgroupId=10 Daniel White 3-dB Networks http://www.3dbnetworks.com >-----Original Message----- >From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer >Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2009 8:02 AM >To: WISPA General List >Subject: Re: [WISPA] Installs on Towers, what's your method? > >I've never heard of such a thing. > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "RickG" <rgunder...@gmail.com> >To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> >Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2009 12:06 AM >Subject: Re: [WISPA] Installs on Towers, what's your method? > > >How about the metal zip ties? > >On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 11:32 AM, Marlon K. Schafer<o...@odessaoffice.com> >wrote: >> I have not seen any zip ties hold up. Even the supposedly uv rated >ones. >> >> The BEST I've seen so far (learned this from an old time linesman) is >to >> use >> a big, uv rated zip tie to hold things. Wrap that with good quality >> electrical tape to keep the sun off of it. >> >> Or just do like the old timers. I've seen some VERY old towers out >here. >> What's holding that cable on 30 years later? Wire. Wrap it around a >couple >> of times, twist and forget. >> >> marlon >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> >> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> >> Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2009 7:18 AM >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Installs on Towers, what's your method? >> >> >>>I disagree on the electrical tape. Every climb where I see electrical >tape >>> the stuff is remarkably frail. A stiff breeze would peel it right >off. >>> Maybe 3M is way better then whatever I saw. >>> >>> The tower climber I have to use for a couple towers lead me to these >and >>> I >>> love them: >>> >http://www.tessco.com/products/displayProductInfo.do?sku=455824&eventPag >e=2 >>> >>> They can get tighter due to finer distances between ridges and last >>> "forever". As was said, these things are razor sharp once cut. Just >last >>> week I cut my finger on one of these and didn't notice it for a good >>> while. >>> >>> I can't think of anything to add to that list since you posted it but >I'm >>> sure someone will get an idea =) >>> >>> Good list to have! >>> >>> Josh Luthman >>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>> 1100 Wayne St >>> Suite 1337 >>> Troy, OH 45373 >>> >>> "When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however >>> improbable, must be the truth." >>> --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 12:20 AM, Scott Carullo >>> <sc...@brevardwireless.com>wrote: >>> >>>> Similar but instead of Zip ties use good electrical tape (3m) >>>> >>>> Put enough wraps (6-10) and it will last probably longer than tie >wrap >>>> and it puts more even pressure on all cable types than tie wraps >>>> >>>> Bonus is no rough edges, have one size fits all roll, able to remove >>>> without tools etc >>>> >>>> Scott Carullo >>>> Brevard Wireless >>>> (321) 205-1100 x102 >>>> >>>> On Aug 4, 2009, at 11:56 PM, Chuck Hogg <ch...@shelbybb.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> > I just thought I'd share what we do for our tower installs, and >find >>>> > out >>>> > what/if anything other people are doing. >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > RF Prep >>>> > >>>> > 1. Use Radio Mobile to determine what we will need for antennas, >>>> > radios, etc. >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > Basic Tower Side/Mounting/Cables >>>> > >>>> > 1. Use a 18"-24" standoff mount, or sometimes direct to the leg >>>> > (sectors and backhauls). >>>> > >>>> > 2. Use LMR400 for jumper connections, mastic, tape, butyl, tape. >>>> > >>>> > 3. Use CMXR for Cat-5e cable, solder the ground ends, seal >>>> > around >>>> > with heatshrink. >>>> > >>>> > 4. Use Dielectric Grease on all connections. Protects the >>>> > Ethernet port and cable from allowing condensation or moisture to >>>> > build >>>> > up on the connector and get water inside the cable. I also use it >on >>>> > RF. Once I was on a building and installing a link. I didn't have >>>> > any >>>> > tape, so I just used dielectric grease on the connector. I went >back >>>> > to that building a year later and the connections are still solid. >I >>>> > know for a fact I have had water in a connector when only using >>>> > mastic, >>>> > so this was bare and it was dry. Link is still solid. >>>> > >>>> > 5. Use UV Rated zip ties, so that they don't break later on down >>>> > the road. >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > Lightning Protection Side >>>> > >>>> > 1. Use QLW-8080s Ethernet Surge Suppressor on interior of any >>>> > MikroTik board. >>>> > >>>> > 2. Use PolyPhaser Lightning protection on all connections. >>>> > >>>> > 3. Use 600SS or other Canopy Grounding >>>> > >>>> > 4. Check the resistance in the current grounding from tower to >>>> > ground source. >>>> > >>>> > 5. Use CMXR for the grounding and double shield. >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > Safety Fall Protection >>>> > >>>> > 1. Hard Hats/Helmets Everyone there. >>>> > >>>> > 2. Steel-toed boots with the arch plate for standing on those >>>> > towers. >>>> > >>>> > 3. We use Elk River and DBI/Sala Exofit Tower XP Harnesses, 1-2 >>>> > positioning lanyards and an adjustable lanyard from Petzel. >>>> > >>>> > 4. Loads of shackles, beaners, block/pulleys, 5k lb load rope >>>> > and >>>> > 1k lb tag line. >>>> > >>>> > 5. Cable/Rope Grabs >>>> > >>>> > 6. Food/Drink/Hydration (they say water is best at tower class, >>>> > works for me) >>>> > >>>> > 7. Safety plan and project meeting >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > Base >>>> > >>>> > 1. We setup a UPS. (sometimes battery banks, depending on the >>>> > importance of the tower) >>>> > >>>> > 2. We install a monitor/remote power switch. >>>> > >>>> > 3. Solar panels, aimed per the internet for optimal sun. >>>> > >>>> > 4. Trojan Deep Cycle batteries, easy to find at the golf cart >>>> > shops. >>>> > >>>> > 5. Setup a Site Monitor and Sync Injector if Canopy >>>> > >>>> > 6. Ground out everything at the base. Setup 600SS and other >>>> > surge >>>> > supressors >>>> > >>>> > 7. Mount POE's, Switches, etc. to 3/4 " x4'x4' plywood >>>> > >>>> > 8. Typically every tower we put up has a RB/450G or a RB/493AH >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > Do a ground run through to make sure you aren't missing anything. >>>> > Happy >>>> > vertical travels, and up you go. Take your time, double check >>>> > everything 3 times, as you don't want to forget and safely come >down. >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > I'm probably missing some things here, but that's what I can >remember >>>> > off-hand. >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > Regards, >>>> > >>>> > Chuck Hogg >>>> > >>>> > Shelby Broadband >>>> > 502-722-9292 >>>> > ch...@shelbybb.com >>>> > >>>> > http://www.shelbybb.com >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > --- >>>> > --- >>>> > --- >>>> > --- >>>> > ------------------------------------------------------------------ >-- >>>> > WISPA Wants You! 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