I hear ya.  I can operate all that stuff on the phones, just have no use for
it really.  I program them, fix them and as far as my Verizon, I wrote some
seem edits and unlocked the picture portion in order to transfer via USB
cable and activated the mp3 and ringtones functions.  Just because it was
locked out!  The pics I use from time to time but for good quality I grab
the Sony digital HD cam.  The other stuff, we're small and I use a pad and
paper to keep note if I need to but I don't much.  The important stuff to me
though is the coordinates, can't do without that.  

Thanks for all the advice.  I think I'll order that 80 buck unit this
weekend and see how it goes.  May get 2 if it's good.  

My daughter has the iPhone.  Loves it but never answers the phone when I
call her.  I've offered to get her a replacement since obviously it isn't
working but she declines.  Dunno why.



Bob-


-----Original Message-----
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Chuck Bartosch
Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 10:30 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone?

The problem then, is that far more of us are going to be using these  
new fangled devices and aren't going to have so much knowledge (less  
as time goes on) about the older ones.

However, until I got my iPhone, I felt *exactly* like you did about  
cell phones. I had zero use for color and not much more for the  
camera...and it used to piss me off to no end that Verizon had  
disabled the ability to send pictures you DID take over blue tooth so  
you didn't have to pay them their extra fee to send a photo.

That still grates on me actually, just remembering it ;-).

It's not that AT&T suddenly gave up all the practices of the Carriers  
(they did actually give up some though), but that the iPhone (and I  
hear the Pre is similar) is just so easy to access that functionality  
and it is soooo frigging easy to use, and there's so much you can do  
with so little effort...that it's become a deice I'd find it difficult  
to work without. Think about it...you're up on a tower and can telnet  
into a device using your phone, take pictures of the installation,  
talk to the guy on the ground or the office to coordinate, enter data  
into a database or check data you need...it's really quite useful.

Of course, that has nothing to do with your question now.

Chuck

On Aug 21, 2009, at 10:01 AM, Robert West wrote:

> Well, for one I'm not a cell phone geek.  Geek in everything else  
> but not
> the cell.  I prefer a cell phone that makes a phone call and receive  
> a phone
> call and that's about it.  It's small, sits in my pocket and if I  
> trash the
> thing somehow, no love lost.  (I still use our Motorola Spirit  
> radios for
> communication to persons down on the ground while on a tower, I know  
> I'll
> always have a signal with those) I also have this huge issue with  
> having to
> pay extra to a cell provider to use a feature that has absolutely  
> nothing to
> do with them.  The GPS in the phone is in the phone and if I pay them
> whatever the going rate is plus this fee and that fee, they will be  
> ever so
> nice to unlock a feature that was manufactured into my phone that I  
> own
> outright but they have been blocking with a software edit.  I also  
> come from
> the world of non-integrated components, as in "stereo geek" from the  
> 70's.
> I'm on the flip side and could never understand why someone would want
> everything rolled up in one package.  One part goes bad, you throw  
> out all
> the good parts with the bad.   That's probably why I'm a roll your  
> own kinda
> wireless provider as well and when I buy this GPS, I'll maybe have  
> it for 10
> years at least, the cell phone 2 possibly 3 years on the outside.   
> Plus,
> when the cell phone has problems and I have to send it in, replace  
> it or
> whatever I'm only out a cell phone, not the other things that are
> integrated.
>
> It's just a different sort of mindset of what we're comfortable with.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]  
> On
> Behalf Of Curtis Maurand
> Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 8:28 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Handheld GPS recommendations, anyone?
>
>
> Good God, half the cell phones on the planet have GPS built into them.
> I used a Motorola Razr as a GPS on my last trip to Virginia a couple  
> of
> years ago.  iPhones and Blackberry's and Palm Pre's have them and the
> ability to link them to Google Maps.  Job's done.
>
> Why carry a separate GPS?  I don't get it.
>
> --Curtis
>
> Robert West wrote:
>> I'm finally getting rid of my Delorme Earthmate GPS unit.  It has  
>> served
> me
>> well these past 10 years.................  I will certainly miss  
>> having to
>> boot up my laptop, plug the thing into the serial port of my OLD  
>> laptop
>> because the newer ones do not have the serial port and to use that  
>> USB to
>> serial adapter is more fun that I could handle....  Then hope and  
>> pray
> that
>> the batteries in the Earthmate are still good for I always forget  
>> to check
>> before I go out............  But with that said, I need a  
>> replacement.
>>
>> I've been looking at some small Garmin all weather units but they  
>> seem to
>> stress geo-caching and hiking.  If I had time for that, it may get my
>> attention, but I own a small business that I started because I  
>> needed to
> be
>> more flexible with my time.  Working 80 hours+ a week is about as  
>> flexible
>> as it gets so no, I do not have time for that sort of crazy, high  
>> on life
>> sort of living.
>>
>> I simply need a GPS that I won't break (or be too badly damaged)  
>> when I
> drop
>> it off a 70 foot AP (it will happen, trust me), that will not be  
>> ruined
> when
>> I forget it on the top of the same AP and go home and it just  
>> happens to
>> rain overnight, can be recharged in the van and will give me the two
> pieces
>> of information I really desire.........  My location coordinates  
>> and how
>> high I am.  Someone else can mess with all those other functions,  
>> I'd have
>> to give it to my 4 year old to figure that stuff out anyhow, I just  
>> need
> to
>> know where and how high.
>>
>> Anyone have a good recommendation on a handheld GPS unit?  (I guess I
> could
>> have just said one line but it's not as fun)
>>
>> Thanks in advance.
>>
>> Robert West
>> Just Micro Digital Services Inc.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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