I know Xbox don't like NAT at all. Even just single nat. What I did on my own 
home router was to turn on upnp on the inside and that solved te "issues" but 
then my home router was the only nay device and had public ip on it's wan 
interface (my home router is of course a MT box). 

/Eje
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-----Original Message-----
From: Mike <m...@aweiowa.com>
Date: Mon, 05 Oct 2009 09:38:41 
To: WISPA General List<wireless@wispa.org>
Subject: Re: [WISPA] XBOX 360

They haven't gotten any "not good enough" messages from the xbox.  I 
assume the fix of which you speak was done on the client router and 
not your core equipment?

Ping times from my monitoring position, through a wireless router in 
my home, out a customer client (I have us set up just like a 
customer) through my core, back out a sector, to their repeater 
sector, out their repeater, through a client in the house and finally 
a switch varies from 4ms to 7ms USUALLY.

The client sector facing my tower is set up as a bridge.  The 
repeater connected to it is set up to do DHCP and NAT.  The client in 
the house is set up as a bridge to let the repeater do all the 
DHCP/NAT.  So, there really is only one place the IPs are natted.

I will tell him to 1) make sure his firmware is the latest.  I think 
you can just update from the Xbox, tight?
2) to try different games or a different group of users to see if 
it's the server or not.

I guess I never knew the servers were out in other users homes, kinda 
like P2P or a sort of distributed computing?  I guess I thought the 
Xbox live servers were centrally located.

Mike

At 09:02 AM 10/5/2009, you wrote:
>The only issue we have with Xbox are situations where XBOX Live tells the
>end user that their router is not a high enough level of compatibilty, so it
>is not allowed to connect with all Xbox live sessions.. (sorry I forget the
>exact term they use).  To Fix that it requires two things... 1) The port
>forward rules... TCP/UDP 3074 and UDP 88. 2) for Linksys under security,
>uncheck everything " Block Anonymous Internet Requests  , Filter Multicast
>, Filter Internet NAT Redirection ,  Filter IDENT(Port 113)".  Not every
>thing there matters, but I forget which one or two is relevent.
>
>For us Xbox performance has not been an issue, and it should be noted that
>we only have residential customers on Trango 900Mhz sectors, averaging 40
>homes per sector. There is just a big a chance that the XBOX users are
>getting congestion on XBOX's Hosted Server side of the connection, dependant
>on which they are using to establish connection. If you suspect your
>network, then I'd look for basic network quality type things like latency
>and packet loss on all hops end to end.
>
>Tom DeReggi
>RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
>IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Mike" <m...@aweiowa.com>
>To: <sarn...@info-ed.com>; "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
>Sent: Sunday, October 04, 2009 10:41 PM
>Subject: [WISPA] XBOX 360
>
>
> >I have a couple XBOX 360 players saying they are having lag
> > issues.  It seems a low bandwidth consumer.  How are you guys
> > optimizing for them?  I'd like to try and make them happier. Is there
> > a down side?
> >
> > I know Marlon asked last winter but a good answer never appeared on the
> > list.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> >
> >
> >
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