That's how I have it setup now.  Maybe some time I should test to see if 
uPNP works with it now.  Would make my life a lot easier.


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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com



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From: "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 1:23 PM
To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
Subject: Re: [WISPA] XBOX 360

> I would never do upnp.  Almost certain I have all the ports recommended
> forwarded.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
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> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> "When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
> improbable, must be the truth."
> --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 2:21 PM, Mike Hammett 
> <wispawirel...@ics-il.net>wrote:
>
>> With uPNP or forwarding port 3074?
>>
>>
>> -----
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>
>>
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
>> Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 1:18 PM
>> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] XBOX 360
>>
>> > I have a MT router and one layer of NAT at home.  Zero issues.
>> >
>> > Josh Luthman
>> > Office: 937-552-2340
>> > Direct: 937-552-2343
>> > 1100 Wayne St
>> > Suite 1337
>> > Troy, OH 45373
>> >
>> > "When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
>> > improbable, must be the truth."
>> > --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle
>> >
>> >
>> > On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 2:17 PM, Mike Hammett
>> > <wispawirel...@ics-il.net>wrote:
>> >
>> >> I haven't been successful in getting MT uPNP to work with the XBox...
>> >> then
>> >> again, I haven't tried since 2.9 days.  Does it work now?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> -----
>> >> Mike Hammett
>> >> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>> >> http://www.ics-il.com
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --------------------------------------------------
>> >> From: <e...@wisp-router.com>
>> >> Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 1:11 PM
>> >> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
>> >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] XBOX 360
>> >>
>> >> > I know Xbox don't like NAT at all. Even just single nat. What I did 
>> >> > on
>> >> > my
>> >> > own home router was to turn on upnp on the inside and that solved te
>> >> > "issues" but then my home router was the only nay device and had
>> public
>> >> ip
>> >> > on it's wan interface (my home router is of course a MT box).
>> >> >
>> >> > /Eje
>> >> > Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
>> >> >
>> >> > -----Original Message-----
>> >> > From: Mike <m...@aweiowa.com>
>> >> > Date: Mon, 05 Oct 2009 09:38:41
>> >> > To: WISPA General List<wireless@wispa.org>
>> >> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] XBOX 360
>> >> >
>> >> > They haven't gotten any "not good enough" messages from the xbox.  I
>> >> > assume the fix of which you speak was done on the client router and
>> >> > not your core equipment?
>> >> >
>> >> > Ping times from my monitoring position, through a wireless router in
>> >> > my home, out a customer client (I have us set up just like a
>> >> > customer) through my core, back out a sector, to their repeater
>> >> > sector, out their repeater, through a client in the house and 
>> >> > finally
>> >> > a switch varies from 4ms to 7ms USUALLY.
>> >> >
>> >> > The client sector facing my tower is set up as a bridge.  The
>> >> > repeater connected to it is set up to do DHCP and NAT.  The client 
>> >> > in
>> >> > the house is set up as a bridge to let the repeater do all the
>> >> > DHCP/NAT.  So, there really is only one place the IPs are natted.
>> >> >
>> >> > I will tell him to 1) make sure his firmware is the latest.  I think
>> >> > you can just update from the Xbox, tight?
>> >> > 2) to try different games or a different group of users to see if
>> >> > it's the server or not.
>> >> >
>> >> > I guess I never knew the servers were out in other users homes, 
>> >> > kinda
>> >> > like P2P or a sort of distributed computing?  I guess I thought the
>> >> > Xbox live servers were centrally located.
>> >> >
>> >> > Mike
>> >> >
>> >> > At 09:02 AM 10/5/2009, you wrote:
>> >> >>The only issue we have with Xbox are situations where XBOX Live 
>> >> >>tells
>> >> >>the
>> >> >>end user that their router is not a high enough level of 
>> >> >>compatibilty,
>> >> >>so
>> >> >>it
>> >> >>is not allowed to connect with all Xbox live sessions.. (sorry I
>> forget
>> >> >>the
>> >> >>exact term they use).  To Fix that it requires two things... 1) The
>> >> >>port
>> >> >>forward rules... TCP/UDP 3074 and UDP 88. 2) for Linksys under
>> >> >>security,
>> >> >>uncheck everything " Block Anonymous Internet Requests  , Filter
>> >> Multicast
>> >> >>, Filter Internet NAT Redirection ,  Filter IDENT(Port 113)".  Not
>> >> >>every
>> >> >>thing there matters, but I forget which one or two is relevent.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>For us Xbox performance has not been an issue, and it should be 
>> >> >>noted
>> >> that
>> >> >>we only have residential customers on Trango 900Mhz sectors, 
>> >> >>averaging
>> >> >>40
>> >> >>homes per sector. There is just a big a chance that the XBOX users 
>> >> >>are
>> >> >>getting congestion on XBOX's Hosted Server side of the connection,
>> >> >>dependant
>> >> >>on which they are using to establish connection. If you suspect your
>> >> >>network, then I'd look for basic network quality type things like
>> >> >>latency
>> >> >>and packet loss on all hops end to end.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>Tom DeReggi
>> >> >>RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
>> >> >>IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>----- Original Message -----
>> >> >>From: "Mike" <m...@aweiowa.com>
>> >> >>To: <sarn...@info-ed.com>; "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
>> >> >>Sent: Sunday, October 04, 2009 10:41 PM
>> >> >>Subject: [WISPA] XBOX 360
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >I have a couple XBOX 360 players saying they are having lag
>> >> >> > issues.  It seems a low bandwidth consumer.  How are you guys
>> >> >> > optimizing for them?  I'd like to try and make them happier. Is
>> >> >> > there
>> >> >> > a down side?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > I know Marlon asked last winter but a good answer never appeared 
>> >> >> > on
>> >> the
>> >> >> > list.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Thanks
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
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