But that's the same complaints a lot of people have when comparing the
legacy UBNT and MT.  UBNT is basically plug and play while MT is virtually
limitless on your configuration options.  I can train even my wife to
install a backhaul and could do it within an hour but the complexity of
Mikrotik adds significantly to the learning curve.  If you want quick and
easy, plug and play, Ubiquiti.  Complexity, MT.  

But I'm not meaning to discourage you whatsoever.  It's the little guy in
the corner who comes up with real innovation.  The big guys tend to swoop
down and claim it once it looks good.  :)



-----Original Message-----
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of MDK
Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 12:57 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] FreeBSD hackers.... Needed for WISP related product...

Actually, it's far better than cost-effective.

It's flexible, in both hardware and capabilities.    Firewall, routing, 
routing daemons, and other things.

Frankly, I find the physical aspects of the Airmax stuff frustratingly 
limited.

I've grown fond of my immense ability to do creative stuff with Star-OS and 
a wide array of physical forms - especially since much of my network relies 
on low power consumption.

AirMax, deployed as an AP and clients...  seems ok.    But that's only a 
small part of a good network.




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From: "Jayson Baker" <jay...@spectrasurf.com>
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 8:51 PM
To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
Subject: Re: [WISPA] FreeBSD hackers.... Needed for WISP related product...

> Availability is supposedly resolved.  We'll see.
>
> Routing... there is a full SDK.  You can do anything you want on those
> things.  The new ones have 400+MHz proc's, plenty to do some
> routing/firewalling.
>
> I just can't see a home grown solution like you're proposing being
> cost-effective.  We spent about 2 months on a project just like this, and
> started to have some pretty awesome performance and results.
>
> Then UBNT stuff came out.
>
> On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 9:39 PM, MDK <rea...@muddyfrogwater.us> wrote:
>
>> Given UBNT's  record of unavailability of product, and the inability to
>> route via the interface, I vastly prefer this to UBNT's products.
>>
>> Now, mind you, I'm not really putting them down, but this is an excellent
>> infrastructure tool...    Routing and other capabilities that vastly 
>> exceed
>> some better known...
>>
>>
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "Jayson Baker" <jay...@spectrasurf.com>
>> Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 8:25 PM
>> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] FreeBSD hackers.... Needed for WISP related 
>> product...
>>
>> > Is there really much need for this, given the new AirMax product line?
>> > I'm just saying...
>> >
>> > On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 9:19 PM, MDK <rea...@muddyfrogwater.us> wrote:
>> >
>> >> What would you call a totally proprietary,  TDMA based protocol, 
>> >> without
>> >> ACK
>> >> or CSMA?
>> >>
>> >> Doesn't look a whole lot like 802.11x, but if you wish to say it is,
>> >> then,
>> >> for you it is :)
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --------------------------------------------------
>> >> From: "Travis Johnson" <t...@ida.net>
>> >> Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 7:36 PM
>> >> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
>> >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] FreeBSD hackers.... Needed for WISP related
>> >> product...
>> >>
>> >> > If you are using Atheros based hardware, it's still 802.11...
>> >> > regardless
>> >> > of what software you put on top of it.
>> >> >
>> >> > Travis
>> >> > Microserv
>> >> >
>> >> > MDK wrote:
>> >> >> If you're a WISP and have interest in using commodity - off the
>> >> >> shelf -
>> >> >> Atheros based hardware to achieve higher than ethernet speeds over
>> >> >> wireless...     This is not a tweak of 802.11, it is a completely
>> >> >> different
>> >> >> mode...
>> >> >>
>> >> >> There is currently an opportunity to do so, where most of the work
>> has
>> >> >> been
>> >> >> done by various others in the FreeBSd community, but it is not
>> >> integrated
>> >> >> or
>> >> >> packaged as a useful WISP product, and that's what needs to be 
>> >> >> done.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> This does not need to result in an open source release, due to the
>> >> >> relaxed
>> >> >> BSD license.     Or, it can.   But I'm looking for some people who
>> >> >> have
>> >> >> experience with freebsd, and have an interest in integrating what
>> >> >> could
>> >> >> be
>> >> >> an awesome performing product using inexpensive commodity hardware.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> email me at pda  at neofast dot net or mark at neofast dot net
>> >> >>
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