I don't think UBNT is using it.


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From: "Randy Cosby" <dco...@infowest.com>
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 10:19 PM
To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
Subject: Re: [WISPA] FreeBSD hackers.... Needed for WISP related product...

> I think what we're talking about is the TDMA package for Freebsd (which
> is probably exactly what is being used by UBNT).
>
> http://people.freebsd.org/~sam/TDMAPresentation-20090921.pdf
>
> Randy
>
> Travis Johnson wrote:
>> I think everything you have described can be done now with
>> Mikrotik.... routing, firewall, routing daemons, scripting, etc. also
>> being able to use $50 boards up to $1,000 X86 based systems moving
>> gigabits of traffic. All with standard parts.
>>
>> So what would this FreeBSD system bring to the table that can't be
>> done already?
>>
>> Travis
>> Microserv
>>
>> MDK wrote:
>>> Actually, it's far better than cost-effective.
>>>
>>> It's flexible, in both hardware and capabilities.    Firewall, routing,
>>> routing daemons, and other things.
>>>
>>> Frankly, I find the physical aspects of the Airmax stuff frustratingly
>>> limited.
>>>
>>> I've grown fond of my immense ability to do creative stuff with Star-OS 
>>> and
>>> a wide array of physical forms - especially since much of my network 
>>> relies
>>> on low power consumption.
>>>
>>> AirMax, deployed as an AP and clients...  seems ok.    But that's only a
>>> small part of a good network.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>> From: "Jayson Baker" <jay...@spectrasurf.com>
>>> Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 8:51 PM
>>> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] FreeBSD hackers.... Needed for WISP related 
>>> product...
>>>
>>>
>>>> Availability is supposedly resolved.  We'll see.
>>>>
>>>> Routing... there is a full SDK.  You can do anything you want on those
>>>> things.  The new ones have 400+MHz proc's, plenty to do some
>>>> routing/firewalling.
>>>>
>>>> I just can't see a home grown solution like you're proposing being
>>>> cost-effective.  We spent about 2 months on a project just like this, 
>>>> and
>>>> started to have some pretty awesome performance and results.
>>>>
>>>> Then UBNT stuff came out.
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 9:39 PM, MDK <rea...@muddyfrogwater.us> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Given UBNT's  record of unavailability of product, and the inability 
>>>>> to
>>>>> route via the interface, I vastly prefer this to UBNT's products.
>>>>>
>>>>> Now, mind you, I'm not really putting them down, but this is an 
>>>>> excellent
>>>>> infrastructure tool...    Routing and other capabilities that vastly
>>>>> exceed
>>>>> some better known...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>>> From: "Jayson Baker" <jay...@spectrasurf.com>
>>>>> Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 8:25 PM
>>>>> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] FreeBSD hackers.... Needed for WISP related
>>>>> product...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Is there really much need for this, given the new AirMax product 
>>>>>> line?
>>>>>> I'm just saying...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 9:19 PM, MDK <rea...@muddyfrogwater.us> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What would you call a totally proprietary,  TDMA based protocol,
>>>>>>> without
>>>>>>> ACK
>>>>>>> or CSMA?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Doesn't look a whole lot like 802.11x, but if you wish to say it is,
>>>>>>> then,
>>>>>>> for you it is :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>> From: "Travis Johnson" <t...@ida.net>
>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 7:36 PM
>>>>>>> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] FreeBSD hackers.... Needed for WISP related
>>>>>>> product...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If you are using Atheros based hardware, it's still 802.11...
>>>>>>>> regardless
>>>>>>>> of what software you put on top of it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Travis
>>>>>>>> Microserv
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> MDK wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If you're a WISP and have interest in using commodity - off the
>>>>>>>>> shelf -
>>>>>>>>> Atheros based hardware to achieve higher than ethernet speeds over
>>>>>>>>> wireless...     This is not a tweak of 802.11, it is a completely
>>>>>>>>> different
>>>>>>>>> mode...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> There is currently an opportunity to do so, where most of the work
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> has
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> been
>>>>>>>>> done by various others in the FreeBSd community, but it is not
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> integrated
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>> packaged as a useful WISP product, and that's what needs to be
>>>>>>>>> done.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This does not need to result in an open source release, due to the
>>>>>>>>> relaxed
>>>>>>>>> BSD license.     Or, it can.   But I'm looking for some people who
>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>> experience with freebsd, and have an interest in integrating what
>>>>>>>>> could
>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>> an awesome performing product using inexpensive commodity 
>>>>>>>>> hardware.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> email me at pda  at neofast dot net or mark at neofast dot net
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
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