I'll get the witches together tonight and see if we can channel Nikola Tesla and get some answers.
I've been trying not to do that anymore, the last time I followed his instructions I caught the dog on fire. But we'll see. Bob- -----Original Message----- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2009 10:22 AM To: sarn...@info-ed.com; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Report: Broadband stimulus funds won't suffice I have to believe we are on the cusp of some real innovation. The answer will not be wireless as we now know it. Instead, it will be some sort of ultra wide band signal spread over a certain frequency band and controlled by software defined radios. With the right algorithms, many users could be using the same band and only raise the noise floor slightly to an observer or an analog spectrum analyzer. Most of the recent innovation in UWB is for personal devices, low power, and short range. It can be done on a much larger, wider scale. Distance will dictate the amount of spectrum a device can use and still have adapting radiators efficient at that slice of spectrum. The biggest hurdle will be the "back door" the government will insist on having into the system. http://www.deviceforge.com/articles/AT8171287040.html Every house or business could have a central device communicating with the mesh or whatever it becomes, and relaying to devices in use by individuals, using a lower power UWB. I'm not sure the end device will be a phone/IPhone type device, but instead will be some sort of thin film display you either unfold, or something that is integrated into eye wear. http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,667638,00.asp I think we have reached the limits of the technology now commonly available. The smart phone is not the answer. Little tiny screens are usable by young eyes, but not by mature users. A screen that communicates with the device in your pocket will be the norm. I have a friend/customer who just got a new set of hearing aids. It interfaces with his phone via bluetooth. He is able to use a cell phone now, where previous attempts were less than satisfying. My prediction is many of the people on this list will be amongst the innovators that bring these technologies to the masses. mg At 08:30 AM 12/12/2009, you wrote: >There will be places that running fiber 5 miles for one or two >customers is not going to be feasible. The telcos had to run copper >to provide a telephone in many circumstances to these areas. With >fiber, I don't think they are going to do it. Not counting the cost >of fiber, but the build-out with poles and/or digging will be >astounding. What's the cheaper alternative here, and everywhere but >the largest of populated areas? Wireless. How are we gonna provide >those speeds? We need more spectrum. My guess is we will never see >it under the duopoly centered FCC/all govt we have had for the past >15 years. AND of course, the govt would never want to do something >the cheaper way. > >Scottie > >---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- >From: "Robert West" <robert.w...@just-micro.com> >Reply-To: WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org> >Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 21:25:23 -0500 > > >And that makes sense, however back during the rural electrification days, > >they weren't after 200 amp service, just a line and a light bulb made it all > >good. Everything after was built on top of that. But one could also argue > >that dial-up was the start and this is the additional upgrading..... But > >they are right, fiber is the one true way of bringing everyone up to the > >same level of access. I'm conflicted because both sides in it are right, in > >my eyes. > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > >Behalf Of Mike Hammett > >Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 9:17 PM > >To: WISPA General List > >Subject: Re: [WISPA] Report: Broadband stimulus funds won't suffice > > > >A lot of organizations only consider fiber worthy of deployment going > >forward. $1500 seems about appropriate, then. > > > > > >----- > >Mike Hammett > >Intelligent Computing Solutions > >http://www.ics-il.com > > > > > > > >-------------------------------------------------- > >From: "Scottie Arnett" <sarn...@info-ed.com> > >Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 7:48 PM > >To: <wireless@wispa.org> > >Subject: Re: [WISPA] Report: Broadband stimulus funds won't suffice > > > >> > >> I found these stats interesting: "the number of households either lacking > >> Internet service altogether or using dial-up connections approaches 58 > >> million - half of the households in the United States." > >> > >> Somebody is wrong somewhere on these numbers? > >> > >> and... > >> > >> "Insight Research claims that it takes about $1,500 per household to > >> deploy broadband, bringing the amount of money needed for universal access > > > >> to $60 billion." > >> > >> I know I could do mucho mucho wireless with $1500 per customer! > >> > >> Scottie > >> > >> ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- > >> From: "Robert West" <robert.w...@just-micro.com> > >> Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 20:28:56 -0500 > >> > >>>Maybe if it was given to those who are truly interested in providing > >>>broadband, it would be more than enough. > >>> > >>>How much more could YOU do, Scottie, if they gave you 100 grand outright? > >>>I > >>>bet it would go directly towards the customer. > >>> > >>>Now I'm sure that there are plenty of well meaning companies out there > >>>just > >>>trying for a little help and deservedly so, but basic human nature is > >>>greed > >>>and as we've talked about before, once those "Wisps by Convenience" get > >>>the > >>>cash, play Wisp until they run out of that cash and then go bye-bye, our > >>>payday will come when we are able to buy their equipment at auction. 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