you do not have to channel Tesla you have to find him, since he is a vampire.

On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 9:45 AM, Robert West <robert.w...@just-micro.com> wrote:
> I'll get the witches together tonight and see if we can channel Nikola Tesla
> and get some answers.
>
> I've been trying not to do that anymore, the last time I followed his
> instructions I caught the dog on fire.  But we'll see.
>
> Bob-
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Mike
> Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2009 10:22 AM
> To: sarn...@info-ed.com; WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Report: Broadband stimulus funds won't suffice
>
> I have to believe we are on the cusp of some real innovation.  The
> answer will not be wireless as we now know it.  Instead, it will be
> some sort of ultra wide band signal spread over a certain frequency
> band and controlled by software defined radios.  With the right
> algorithms, many users could be using the same band and only raise
> the noise floor slightly to an observer or an analog spectrum analyzer.
>
> Most of the recent innovation in UWB is for personal devices, low
> power, and short range.  It can be done on a much larger, wider
> scale.  Distance will dictate the amount of spectrum a device can use
> and still have adapting radiators efficient at that slice of
> spectrum.  The biggest hurdle will be the "back door" the government
> will insist on having into the system.
>
> http://www.deviceforge.com/articles/AT8171287040.html
>
> Every house or business could have a central device communicating
> with the mesh or whatever it becomes, and relaying to  devices in use
> by individuals, using a lower power UWB.
>
> I'm not sure the end device will be a phone/IPhone type device, but
> instead will be some sort of thin film display you either unfold, or
> something that is integrated into eye wear.
>
> http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,667638,00.asp
>
> I think we have reached the limits of the technology now commonly
> available.  The smart phone is not the answer.  Little tiny screens
> are usable by young eyes, but not by mature users.  A screen that
> communicates with the device in your pocket will be the norm.
>
> I have a friend/customer who just got a new set of hearing aids.  It
> interfaces with his phone via bluetooth.  He is able to use a cell
> phone now, where previous attempts were less than satisfying.
>
> My prediction is many of the people on this list will be amongst the
> innovators that bring these technologies to the masses.
>
> mg
>
>
> At 08:30 AM 12/12/2009, you wrote:
>>There will be places that running fiber 5 miles for one or two
>>customers is not going to be feasible. The telcos had to run copper
>>to provide a telephone in many circumstances to these areas. With
>>fiber, I don't think they are going to do it. Not counting the cost
>>of fiber, but the build-out with poles and/or digging will be
>>astounding. What's the cheaper alternative here, and everywhere but
>>the largest of populated areas? Wireless. How are we gonna provide
>>those speeds? We need more spectrum. My guess is we will never see
>>it under the duopoly centered FCC/all govt we have had for the past
>>15 years. AND of course, the govt would never want to do something
>>the cheaper way.
>>
>>Scottie
>>
>>---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
>>From: "Robert West" <robert.w...@just-micro.com>
>>Reply-To: WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org>
>>Date:  Fri, 11 Dec 2009 21:25:23 -0500
>>
>> >And that makes sense, however back during the rural electrification days,
>> >they weren't after 200 amp service, just a line and a light bulb made it
> all
>> >good.  Everything after was built on top of that.  But one could also
> argue
>> >that dial-up was the start and this is the additional upgrading.....  But
>> >they are right, fiber is the one true way of bringing everyone up to the
>> >same level of access.  I'm conflicted because both sides in it are right,
> in
>> >my eyes.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>> >Behalf Of Mike Hammett
>> >Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 9:17 PM
>> >To: WISPA General List
>> >Subject: Re: [WISPA] Report: Broadband stimulus funds won't suffice
>> >
>> >A lot of organizations only consider fiber worthy of deployment going
>> >forward.  $1500 seems about appropriate, then.
>> >
>> >
>> >-----
>> >Mike Hammett
>> >Intelligent Computing Solutions
>> >http://www.ics-il.com
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >--------------------------------------------------
>> >From: "Scottie Arnett" <sarn...@info-ed.com>
>> >Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 7:48 PM
>> >To: <wireless@wispa.org>
>> >Subject: Re: [WISPA] Report: Broadband stimulus funds won't suffice
>> >
>> >>
>> >> I found these stats interesting: "the number of households either
> lacking
>> >> Internet service altogether or using dial-up connections approaches 58
>> >> million - half of the households in the United States."
>> >>
>> >> Somebody is wrong somewhere on these numbers?
>> >>
>> >> and...
>> >>
>> >> "Insight Research claims that it takes about $1,500 per household to
>> >> deploy broadband, bringing the amount of money needed for universal
> access
>> >
>> >> to $60 billion."
>> >>
>> >> I know I could do mucho mucho wireless with $1500 per customer!
>> >>
>> >> Scottie
>> >>
>> >> ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
>> >> From: "Robert West" <robert.w...@just-micro.com>
>> >> Date:  Fri, 11 Dec 2009 20:28:56 -0500
>> >>
>> >>>Maybe if it was given to those who are truly interested in providing
>> >>>broadband, it would be more than enough.
>> >>>
>> >>>How much more could YOU do, Scottie, if they gave you 100 grand
> outright?
>> >>>I
>> >>>bet it would go directly towards the customer.
>> >>>
>> >>>Now I'm sure that there are plenty of well meaning companies out there
>> >>>just
>> >>>trying for a little help and deservedly so, but basic human nature is
>> >>>greed
>> >>>and as we've talked about before, once those "Wisps by Convenience" get
>> >>>the
>> >>>cash, play Wisp until they run out of that cash and then go bye-bye,
> our
>> >>>payday will come when we are able to buy their equipment at auction.
> At
>> >>>least that's what I tell myself to feel better......  :)
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>-----Original Message-----
>> >>>From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>> >>>Behalf Of Scottie Arnett
>> >>>Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 8:20 PM
>> >>>To: wireless@wispa.org
>> >>>Subject: [WISPA] Report: Broadband stimulus funds won't suffice
>> >>>
>> >>>< http://www.cedmagazine.com/News-Broadband-stimulus-funds-121109.aspx
>>
>> >>>
>> >>>"The $7.2 billion in broadband stimulus funding given out by President
>> >>>Obama
>> >>>is not even close to enough to deploy truly universal broadband access,
>> >>>according to a new study from Insight Research."
>> >>>
>> >>>Scottie
>> >>>
>> >>>Wireless High Speed Broadband service from Info-Ed, Inc. as low as
>> >>>$30.00/mth.
>> >>>Check out www.info-ed.com/wireless.html for information.
>> >>>
>> >>>
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