He's actually from the future. I just have to wait until he's born.
-----Original Message----- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Philip Dorr Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2009 5:59 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Report: Broadband stimulus funds won't suffice you do not have to channel Tesla you have to find him, since he is a vampire. On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 9:45 AM, Robert West <robert.w...@just-micro.com> wrote: > I'll get the witches together tonight and see if we can channel Nikola Tesla > and get some answers. > > I've been trying not to do that anymore, the last time I followed his > instructions I caught the dog on fire. But we'll see. > > Bob- > > > -----Original Message----- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Mike > Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2009 10:22 AM > To: sarn...@info-ed.com; WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Report: Broadband stimulus funds won't suffice > > I have to believe we are on the cusp of some real innovation. The > answer will not be wireless as we now know it. Instead, it will be > some sort of ultra wide band signal spread over a certain frequency > band and controlled by software defined radios. With the right > algorithms, many users could be using the same band and only raise > the noise floor slightly to an observer or an analog spectrum analyzer. > > Most of the recent innovation in UWB is for personal devices, low > power, and short range. It can be done on a much larger, wider > scale. Distance will dictate the amount of spectrum a device can use > and still have adapting radiators efficient at that slice of > spectrum. The biggest hurdle will be the "back door" the government > will insist on having into the system. > > http://www.deviceforge.com/articles/AT8171287040.html > > Every house or business could have a central device communicating > with the mesh or whatever it becomes, and relaying to devices in use > by individuals, using a lower power UWB. > > I'm not sure the end device will be a phone/IPhone type device, but > instead will be some sort of thin film display you either unfold, or > something that is integrated into eye wear. > > http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,667638,00.asp > > I think we have reached the limits of the technology now commonly > available. The smart phone is not the answer. Little tiny screens > are usable by young eyes, but not by mature users. A screen that > communicates with the device in your pocket will be the norm. > > I have a friend/customer who just got a new set of hearing aids. It > interfaces with his phone via bluetooth. He is able to use a cell > phone now, where previous attempts were less than satisfying. > > My prediction is many of the people on this list will be amongst the > innovators that bring these technologies to the masses. > > mg > > > At 08:30 AM 12/12/2009, you wrote: >>There will be places that running fiber 5 miles for one or two >>customers is not going to be feasible. The telcos had to run copper >>to provide a telephone in many circumstances to these areas. With >>fiber, I don't think they are going to do it. Not counting the cost >>of fiber, but the build-out with poles and/or digging will be >>astounding. What's the cheaper alternative here, and everywhere but >>the largest of populated areas? Wireless. How are we gonna provide >>those speeds? We need more spectrum. My guess is we will never see >>it under the duopoly centered FCC/all govt we have had for the past >>15 years. AND of course, the govt would never want to do something >>the cheaper way. >> >>Scottie >> >>---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- >>From: "Robert West" <robert.w...@just-micro.com> >>Reply-To: WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org> >>Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 21:25:23 -0500 >> >> >And that makes sense, however back during the rural electrification days, >> >they weren't after 200 amp service, just a line and a light bulb made it > all >> >good. Everything after was built on top of that. But one could also > argue >> >that dial-up was the start and this is the additional upgrading..... But >> >they are right, fiber is the one true way of bringing everyone up to the >> >same level of access. I'm conflicted because both sides in it are right, > in >> >my eyes. >> > >> > >> > >> >-----Original Message----- >> >From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >> >Behalf Of Mike Hammett >> >Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 9:17 PM >> >To: WISPA General List >> >Subject: Re: [WISPA] Report: Broadband stimulus funds won't suffice >> > >> >A lot of organizations only consider fiber worthy of deployment going >> >forward. $1500 seems about appropriate, then. >> > >> > >> >----- >> >Mike Hammett >> >Intelligent Computing Solutions >> >http://www.ics-il.com >> > >> > >> > >> >-------------------------------------------------- >> >From: "Scottie Arnett" <sarn...@info-ed.com> >> >Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 7:48 PM >> >To: <wireless@wispa.org> >> >Subject: Re: [WISPA] Report: Broadband stimulus funds won't suffice >> > >> >> >> >> I found these stats interesting: "the number of households either > lacking >> >> Internet service altogether or using dial-up connections approaches 58 >> >> million - half of the households in the United States." >> >> >> >> Somebody is wrong somewhere on these numbers? >> >> >> >> and... >> >> >> >> "Insight Research claims that it takes about $1,500 per household to >> >> deploy broadband, bringing the amount of money needed for universal > access >> > >> >> to $60 billion." >> >> >> >> I know I could do mucho mucho wireless with $1500 per customer! >> >> >> >> Scottie >> >> >> >> ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- >> >> From: "Robert West" <robert.w...@just-micro.com> >> >> Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 20:28:56 -0500 >> >> >> >>>Maybe if it was given to those who are truly interested in providing >> >>>broadband, it would be more than enough. >> >>> >> >>>How much more could YOU do, Scottie, if they gave you 100 grand > outright? >> >>>I >> >>>bet it would go directly towards the customer. >> >>> >> >>>Now I'm sure that there are plenty of well meaning companies out there >> >>>just >> >>>trying for a little help and deservedly so, but basic human nature is >> >>>greed >> >>>and as we've talked about before, once those "Wisps by Convenience" get >> >>>the >> >>>cash, play Wisp until they run out of that cash and then go bye-bye, > our >> >>>payday will come when we are able to buy their equipment at auction. > At >> >>>least that's what I tell myself to feel better...... :) >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>>-----Original Message----- >> >>>From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >> >>>Behalf Of Scottie Arnett >> >>>Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 8:20 PM >> >>>To: wireless@wispa.org >> >>>Subject: [WISPA] Report: Broadband stimulus funds won't suffice >> >>> >> >>>< http://www.cedmagazine.com/News-Broadband-stimulus-funds-121109.aspx >> >> >>> >> >>>"The $7.2 billion in broadband stimulus funding given out by President >> >>>Obama >> >>>is not even close to enough to deploy truly universal broadband access, >> >>>according to a new study from Insight Research." >> >>> >> >>>Scottie >> >>> >> >>>Wireless High Speed Broadband service from Info-Ed, Inc. as low as >> >>>$30.00/mth. >> >>>Check out www.info-ed.com/wireless.html for information. >> >>> >> >>> >> >>>>------------------------------------------------------------------------- > - >> >-- >> >>>---- >> >>>WISPA Wants You! 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