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Jerry Richardson
airCloud Communications

On Dec 30, 2009, at 5:48 PM, "Eje Gustafsson" <e...@wisp-router.com>  
wrote:

> Sigh.. Ignorance is bliss I guess. But never mind. Since you never
> investigated nor understand the rules I'm not going to let you know  
> that
> there are plenty of MikroTik units out there that passed FCC cert lab
> testing and have FCC approval and modular systems that passed FCC
> enforcement inspection.
>
> Ohh and with your belief every single laptop with a modular WiFi  
> card is
> then not certified. I hope all your laptops your company and you  
> personally
> use then uses USB sticks and that the card is not a mpci with the  
> original
> mpci FCC cert code stickered on the laptop. But my guess that is the  
> case.
> Do me this go to FCC's grant code database and search for your WiFi  
> cards
> certificate and read over the documents and see how the card was  
> tested and
> let me know if it was tested WITH YOUR particular laptop model and  
> brand.
> If not I guess per your own words Ralph you are not using FCC  
> certified
> products. Life stinks.
>
> So tired of self proclaimed experts. Once you been involved in FCC  
> certify
> equipment and gotten products certified let's talk.
>
> / Eje
>
> On Dec 30, 2009, at 5:14 PM, Ralph wrote:
>
>> Go ahead and live the dream then, but please don't homebuild your own
>> gear and deploy it in any of my markets. We prefer certified  
>> products.
>>
>> On Dec 30, 2009, at 8:10 PM, e...@wisp-router.com wrote:
>>
>>> You can use MikroTik and be legal.
>>>
>>> Anyone say any different either don't understand the rules or
>>> checked the approved certs or is just spreading FUD.
>>>
>>> /Eje
>>> Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Ralph <ralphli...@bsrg.org>
>>> Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 20:05:50
>>> To: WISPA General List<wireless@wispa.org>
>>> Cc: WISPA General List<wireless@wispa.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wimax gear
>>>
>>> We have successfuly used ubiquiti nano and power stations as
>>> injection
>>> radios for numerous tripod and cisco mesh systems. No problems.  Of
>>> course I have used canopy for it too- no real difference in the end
>>> performance.
>>>
>>> Would not use Mikrotik for any RF due to our desire to stay legal.
>>>
>>> On Dec 30, 2009, at 7:05 PM, Charles Wu <c...@cticonnect.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I find these comparisons of products like Ubiquiti / Mikrotik vs.
>>>> Motorola / WiMAX products to be somewhat unrealistic -- it seems to
>>>> me that it's like comparing something that's hypothetical and  
>>>> "looks
>>>> good on paper" and "hoping" that it will actually work
>>>>
>>>> Here's my question; sure, on paper, the new Ubiquiti WHATEVER will
>>>> give me a Gazillion Mbps with Beamforming and everything for $10 --
>>>> but has anyone actually made this stuff work and scaled it into a
>>>> profitable business?
>>>>
>>>> Many of the WISPs that I've talked to who gone down this path have
>>>> had to upgrade / replace / retool their networks due to the fact
>>>> that these systems don't scale
>>>>
>>>> The one WISP that I know using Ubiquiti / Mikrotik with several
>>>> thousand customers is only using them as endpoints on a Bel-Air
>>>> Network Mesh infrastructure that they spent almost $1 million
>>>> building out
>>>>
>>>> It reminds me of the Asterisk vs. Broadsoft / Metaswitch VoIP
>>>> debates from a couple of years back -- sure, Asterisk was "free"
>>>> while a Broadsoft platform had an entry cost of $250k, but I know  
>>>> of
>>>> tons of Broadsoft providers who support tens of thousands of
>>>> customers for hosted PBX, and the only guy I know doing it on
>>>> Asterisk ended up spending over $500k hiring a custom programming
>>>> team in Russia to rebuild the system for him from scratch (he was
>>>> joking to me that in hindsight, it would've been cheaper and a lot
>>>> easier to just buy a Broadsoft)
>>>>
>>>> I would like to be proven wrong here...so shoot =)
>>>>
>>>> -Charles
>>>>
>>>>
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