I was just in Vegas for the Ubiquity meeting If you are planning to take your family anywhere - VEGAS is not the place - IMHO
When you get off the plane and exit the airport you are handed pamphlets for prostitutes to come to your hotel room from $25/ hr Having 3 daughters and 1 son ... I can tell you - this is hardly the place I would like to take my family on vacation. Disney sounds better ;-) Of course this is all business - - going out to Columbus, Philadelphia, Indy, Chicago, Denver - yeah - much nicer... _____________________________________________________________________________________ Glenn Kelley | Principle | HostMedic |www.HostMedic.com Email: gl...@hostmedic.com Pplease don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. On Feb 4, 2010, at 11:23 AM, Randy Cosby wrote: > Next time, drive up to Mesquite (1.25 hours) or St. George - Great > rooms / prices you can feel good about taking the family to. :) > > Randy > > > On 2/4/2010 9:12 AM, Eje Gustafsson wrote: >> *shudder* Reminds me of WISPCon in Vegas. The WISPCon hotel screwed up my >> families reserveration. Roadeo show in town and one other large conference. >> There was not a hotel room in entire Vegas, Henderson or anywhere close >> enough to drive to. Got to the hotel around 7pm to find out there was no >> available room for us. We called probably 100 different places and visited >> probably another 40+ places, pleading and begging for a room. We didn't even >> find any rooms at the ones that only rented per week. >> Me, my wife, one baby and one toddler. >> Finally about 2:30am we gave up and ended up sleeping in our rental minivan >> on the parking lot. In the middle of the night by accident set of the car >> alarm. Got kicked off the lot by the Casino security guards. Dumb ass >> suggested we drive downtown and take in on a hotel that charge by the hour. >> Yeah exactly the place I want to take 2 small children.. Parking the car on >> a street and sleeping in it was out of the question. We circled the block >> parked at a different location at the Casino parking area and went back to >> sleep. >> >> The memories.. Might have to do that again but without the kids ;) >> >> / Eje >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >> Behalf Of lakel...@gbcx.net >> Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 10:00 AM >> To: WISPA General List >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show >> >> 10+ years ago I remember making a deal with a hotel to take a shower in a >> room that was being refurbished after driving through he night from NY. No >> available rooms for 50 miles. >> >> I should throw all my crap into a U-haul truck, drive it out there and >> abandon the thing! LOL >> >> -B- >> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: "Blake Bowers"<bbow...@mozarks.com> >> Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 22:36:47 >> To:<bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com>; WISPA General List<wireless@wispa.org> >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show >> >> I have never had a problem finding rooms at Dayton, usually with my >> normal reservations taking place 2-3 days before the show. Never. >> >> Now, the hamvention, like all the other hamfests, is no where near as packed >> >> as >> it was 10 years ago too. >> >> 4 years ago I did not even have reservations and found rooms at the first >> place I stopped at, a Drury. >> >> Don't take your organs to heaven, >> heaven knows we need them down here! >> Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Brian Webster"<bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com> >> To: "WISPA General List"<wireless@wispa.org> >> Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 9:04 PM >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show >> >> >> >>> Not a bad idea, Dayton would be problematic as it has limited lodging in >>> the >>> area and the hams already book that capacity up long before the >>> convention. >>> There are other large regional hamfests that might be a good fit for your >>> idea however. The one problem that may arise from those is that the >>> locations in many cases won't be in areas where the airports have a lot of >>> competition so the WISP attendees would more than likely have to pay >>> higher >>> airfare. >>> >>> >>> >>> Thank You, >>> Brian Webster >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]on >>> Behalf Of Robert West >>> Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 9:06 PM >>> To: 'WISPA General List' >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show >>> >>> >>> Okay, I'd like to throw an idea out there and see who yells...... >>> >>> I had a thought that maybe it could be held at the same time as one of the >>> large Ham conventions, like the one they hold in Dayton, Ohio. Only so >>> much >>> I can see and do at a 3 day event, would be great to be able to go across >>> town or wherever to another event that would have a lot of the same sort >>> of >>> towers, tools, safety gear that we use as Wisp operators. No way would we >>> get these type of vendors to come to a Wisp only show, in my opinion. The >>> bonus is, it could be used as a marketing tool to bring in even more >>> people >>> without any more effort. I'd certainly go out of my way for an event that >>> would cover radio gear as well as the hardware and safety. A lot of us >>> WISP >>> operators deal with HAMS and go to their conventions anyhow. Unless, of >>> course, the WISPA show is stuffed with a full assortment of what we use. >>> :) >>> >>> >>> Anyway, just an idea. >>> >>> Bob- >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >>> Behalf Of Matt Larsen - Lists >>> Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 1:31 PM >>> To: WISPA General List >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show >>> >>> All due respect Marlon, but I'm going to disagree with your assumptions. >>> >>> I have spent the last three months researching the possibility of >>> putting on a show and evaluating our options. Before I started on that >>> process, I felt the same way that you do about WISPA putting on our own >>> show. I thought that it would be some work, but doable, and had some >>> potential as a fund raiser. >>> >>> What was truly eye opening to me is the amount of work that is needed to >>> put a show on properly. IMHO, WISPCON got lucky on the first show and >>> then it degraded when the organizational and sales efforts did not scale >>> up to the potential of the show. The market is quite different right >>> now, and I don't think that we would be as lucky as P-15 was back in the >>> day. >>> >>> Ed's group puts on trade shows - that is their focus. They are willing >>> to do it at no cost to us, and to help us build our membership up so >>> that both sides will benefit. They don't know much about the WISP >>> business, so we have an opportunity to work with them to design a show >>> that our members would all like to go to. They are going to do it on >>> a much larger scale than what we had planned on doing, so we can spread >>> WISPAs message beyond our own little community. Those are strong >>> positives. >>> >>> Most importantly, we will not have to commit our money or manpower to >>> the project. Money is not that big of a deal, but manpower is. We >>> will not be able to put on a show with volunteer manpower, and it isn't >>> really a question of just hiring someone because the job requirements go >>> far beyond just being an ED type or a sales person. These guys have a >>> staff of people who specialize in this kind of work and can get it done >>> more effectively and at a larger scale than we could ever dream of doing >>> on our own. >>> >>> All this being said - if the show is a flop, there will be an "out" so >>> that we can go back to plan A next year if that is what needs to >>> happen. For 2010, it makes more sense to work with professionals to >>> get a show put on. >>> >>> Matt Larsen >>> vistabeam.com >>> >>> >>> Marlon K. Schafer wrote: >>> >>>> forwarding to the list. >>>> >>>> Matt/Forbes, can someone please set the list to reply to the list rather >>>> than to the sender? Thanks, >>>> >>>> Matt, understood. I'd disagree with that plan of action though. We need >>>> our own show. It should be a fund raiser for WISPA. >>>> >>>> Near as I can tell Ed's planning on more of an ISPCon type of a show. I >>>> believe we need more of a WISPCon kind of event. Lower cost, more >>>> >>> intimate >>> >>>> etc. >>>> >>>> I'd suggest that we step back and set a show date for later in the year. >>>> >>> It >>> >>>> shouldn't take more than a few months to put something together. We know >>>> who the vendors and attendees would be. And we know, basically, what >>>> >>> would >>> >>>> need to be presented. >>>> >>>> The members want a show. The vendors want a show. Someone just has to >>>> DO >>>> >>> a >>> >>>> show. >>>> >>>> If we can't find anyone to run the effort that certainly changes things. >>>> I'm not interested in that job (putting together a Dirtbike one for here >>>> right now, it's not bad but does take time...) right now. >>>> >>>> laters, >>>> marlon >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From:<li...@manageisp.com> >>>> To: "Marlon K. Schafer"<o...@odessaoffice.com> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 9:53 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> Marlon, >>>>> The tentative plan with Ed's group is that we will put our efforts into >>>>> his show, and that we will not be doing our own show as long as both >>>>> >>> sides >>> >>>>> are happy with the performance of his show. >>>>> Also, since we are not putting any money into it, there is no profit >>>>> sharing. They put in the money and the manpower, they get the profit, >>>>> >>> if >>> >>>>> there is any. Our goal in this is to build up our membership numbers >>>>> >>> and >>> >>>>> leverage their promotional and marketing efforts to get the word out >>>>> >>> about >>> >>>>> WISPA and get people to the show so we can turn them into members. >>>>> This is going to end up similar to our agreement with ISPCON, but we >>>>> will >>>>> >>> >>>>> have more say in the structure and educational parts of the show. >>>>> Also, >>>>> >>> >>>>> it should cost us little or no money. >>>>> Matt Larsen >>>>> vistabeam.com >>>>> Marlon K. Schafer writes: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Hi Matt, In the end I still think we should have our own show. How >>>>>> clear >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> will it be made to Ed's group that we'll still be working to our own >>>>>> >>> show >>> >>>>>> at a later date? Also, how are we going to insure that we don't end up >>>>>> with the same problem we did with Charles for his first show? Where >>>>>> there is no profit to split? >>>>>> marlon ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>> From: "Matt Larsen - Lists"<li...@manageisp.com> >>>>>> To:<wispas...@wispa.org> >>>>>> Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 10:59 PM >>>>>> Subject: [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> After our visits with the people interested in the trade show and >>>>>>> evaluating our options, Forbes and I are making the decision to work >>>>>>> with Ed Meek's group to help promote their wireless show, with WISPA >>>>>>> as >>>>>>> one of the "anchors" of the show. >>>>>>> The details are yet to be worked out. What has been discussed so far >>>>>>> is that WISPA will be featured prominently in the promotional efforts, >>>>>>> we will provide the educational tracks for the wireless broadband >>>>>>> section of the show and we will have considerable influence on what >>>>>>> events, speakers and specialized sessions (ISP-CEO type discussions) >>>>>>> will be conducted as part of the show. We will also be able to >>>>>>> re-start the WISPA awards and present them at the show. There was >>>>>>> also a discussion about substantial discounts for WISPA members to >>>>>>> attend - enough to highly incentivise attendees to join WISPA before >>>>>>> >>> the >>> >>>>>>> show. >>>>>>> Rather than putting on our own show, we will play a large part in this >>>>>>> show. There will still be a lot of work to be done, and I will share >>>>>>> details after we get them worked out with the promoters. >>>>>>> Any questions or concerns, please submit them on the list and we can >>>>>>> >>> get >>> >>>>>>> them worked out. >>>>>>> Matt Larsen >>>>>>> vistabeam.com >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Wispashow mailing list >>>>>>> wispas...@wispa.org >>>>>>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wispashow >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Wispashow mailing list >>>>>> wispas...@wispa.org >>>>>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wispashow >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Wispashow mailing list >>>> wispas...@wispa.org >>>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wispashow >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >>> ---- >>> WISPA Wants You! 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