I think that's one thing most of us could agree on seeing as how wisp operators should enjoy heights.
-----Original Message----- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 9:45 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show Zip lines sound fun! On 2/5/10, Mike <m...@aweiowa.com> wrote: > Phoenix. Dry and warm. > > *OR* I live 5 minutes up the hill from a world class casino and hotel > complex. http://www.meskwaki.com/ > > I could host, and you could take turns climbing my towers, and riding the > zip lines here at Gilly Hollow. One of them is a terror at 750 feet. > > Mike > > -----Original Message----- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Robert West > Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 11:18 PM > To: 'WISPA General List' > Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show > > I'm the same. If Vegas, I'd pass. Having shows in Vegas isnt about the > show, it's about Vegas. The show is just the vehicle to use to get there. > A show in Vegas has become a cliché. > > Bob- > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Glenn Kelley > Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 11:39 AM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show > > I was just in Vegas for the Ubiquity meeting > > If you are planning to take your family anywhere - VEGAS is not the place - > IMHO > > When you get off the plane and exit the airport you are handed pamphlets for > prostitutes to come to your hotel room from $25/ hr > Having 3 daughters and 1 son ... I can tell you - this is hardly the place I > would like to take my family on vacation. > > Disney sounds better ;-) > > Of course this is all business - - going out to Columbus, Philadelphia, > Indy, Chicago, Denver - yeah - much nicer... > > > ____________________________________________________________________________ > _________ > Glenn Kelley | Principle | HostMedic |www.HostMedic.com > Email: gl...@hostmedic.com > Pplease don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. > > On Feb 4, 2010, at 11:23 AM, Randy Cosby wrote: > >> Next time, drive up to Mesquite (1.25 hours) or St. George - Great >> rooms / prices you can feel good about taking the family to. :) >> >> Randy >> >> >> On 2/4/2010 9:12 AM, Eje Gustafsson wrote: >>> *shudder* Reminds me of WISPCon in Vegas. The WISPCon hotel screwed up my >>> families reserveration. Roadeo show in town and one other large > conference. >>> There was not a hotel room in entire Vegas, Henderson or anywhere close >>> enough to drive to. Got to the hotel around 7pm to find out there was no >>> available room for us. We called probably 100 different places and > visited >>> probably another 40+ places, pleading and begging for a room. We didn't > even >>> find any rooms at the ones that only rented per week. >>> Me, my wife, one baby and one toddler. >>> Finally about 2:30am we gave up and ended up sleeping in our rental > minivan >>> on the parking lot. In the middle of the night by accident set of the car >>> alarm. Got kicked off the lot by the Casino security guards. Dumb ass >>> suggested we drive downtown and take in on a hotel that charge by the > hour. >>> Yeah exactly the place I want to take 2 small children.. Parking the car > on >>> a street and sleeping in it was out of the question. We circled the block >>> parked at a different location at the Casino parking area and went back > to >>> sleep. >>> >>> The memories.. Might have to do that again but without the kids ;) >>> >>> / Eje >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >>> Behalf Of lakel...@gbcx.net >>> Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 10:00 AM >>> To: WISPA General List >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show >>> >>> 10+ years ago I remember making a deal with a hotel to take a shower in a >>> room that was being refurbished after driving through he night from NY. > No >>> available rooms for 50 miles. >>> >>> I should throw all my crap into a U-haul truck, drive it out there and >>> abandon the thing! LOL >>> >>> -B- >>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: "Blake Bowers"<bbow...@mozarks.com> >>> Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 22:36:47 >>> To:<bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com>; WISPA General List<wireless@wispa.org> >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show >>> >>> I have never had a problem finding rooms at Dayton, usually with my >>> normal reservations taking place 2-3 days before the show. Never. >>> >>> Now, the hamvention, like all the other hamfests, is no where near as > packed >>> >>> as >>> it was 10 years ago too. >>> >>> 4 years ago I did not even have reservations and found rooms at the first >>> place I stopped at, a Drury. >>> >>> Don't take your organs to heaven, >>> heaven knows we need them down here! >>> Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Brian Webster"<bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com> >>> To: "WISPA General List"<wireless@wispa.org> >>> Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 9:04 PM >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show >>> >>> >>> >>>> Not a bad idea, Dayton would be problematic as it has limited lodging in >>>> the >>>> area and the hams already book that capacity up long before the >>>> convention. >>>> There are other large regional hamfests that might be a good fit for > your >>>> idea however. The one problem that may arise from those is that the >>>> locations in many cases won't be in areas where the airports have a lot > of >>>> competition so the WISP attendees would more than likely have to pay >>>> higher >>>> airfare. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Thank You, >>>> Brian Webster >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]on >>>> Behalf Of Robert West >>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 9:06 PM >>>> To: 'WISPA General List' >>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show >>>> >>>> >>>> Okay, I'd like to throw an idea out there and see who yells...... >>>> >>>> I had a thought that maybe it could be held at the same time as one of > the >>>> large Ham conventions, like the one they hold in Dayton, Ohio. Only so >>>> much >>>> I can see and do at a 3 day event, would be great to be able to go > across >>>> town or wherever to another event that would have a lot of the same sort >>>> of >>>> towers, tools, safety gear that we use as Wisp operators. No way would > we >>>> get these type of vendors to come to a Wisp only show, in my opinion. > The >>>> bonus is, it could be used as a marketing tool to bring in even more >>>> people >>>> without any more effort. I'd certainly go out of my way for an event > that >>>> would cover radio gear as well as the hardware and safety. A lot of us >>>> WISP >>>> operators deal with HAMS and go to their conventions anyhow. Unless, of >>>> course, the WISPA show is stuffed with a full assortment of what we use. >>>> :) >>>> >>>> >>>> Anyway, just an idea. >>>> >>>> Bob- >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >>>> Behalf Of Matt Larsen - Lists >>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 1:31 PM >>>> To: WISPA General List >>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show >>>> >>>> All due respect Marlon, but I'm going to disagree with your assumptions. >>>> >>>> I have spent the last three months researching the possibility of >>>> putting on a show and evaluating our options. Before I started on that >>>> process, I felt the same way that you do about WISPA putting on our own >>>> show. I thought that it would be some work, but doable, and had some >>>> potential as a fund raiser. >>>> >>>> What was truly eye opening to me is the amount of work that is needed to >>>> put a show on properly. IMHO, WISPCON got lucky on the first show and >>>> then it degraded when the organizational and sales efforts did not scale >>>> up to the potential of the show. The market is quite different right >>>> now, and I don't think that we would be as lucky as P-15 was back in the >>>> day. >>>> >>>> Ed's group puts on trade shows - that is their focus. They are willing >>>> to do it at no cost to us, and to help us build our membership up so >>>> that both sides will benefit. They don't know much about the WISP >>>> business, so we have an opportunity to work with them to design a show >>>> that our members would all like to go to. They are going to do it on >>>> a much larger scale than what we had planned on doing, so we can spread >>>> WISPAs message beyond our own little community. Those are strong >>>> positives. >>>> >>>> Most importantly, we will not have to commit our money or manpower to >>>> the project. Money is not that big of a deal, but manpower is. We >>>> will not be able to put on a show with volunteer manpower, and it isn't >>>> really a question of just hiring someone because the job requirements go >>>> far beyond just being an ED type or a sales person. These guys have a >>>> staff of people who specialize in this kind of work and can get it done >>>> more effectively and at a larger scale than we could ever dream of doing >>>> on our own. >>>> >>>> All this being said - if the show is a flop, there will be an "out" so >>>> that we can go back to plan A next year if that is what needs to >>>> happen. For 2010, it makes more sense to work with professionals to >>>> get a show put on. >>>> >>>> Matt Larsen >>>> vistabeam.com >>>> >>>> >>>> Marlon K. Schafer wrote: >>>> >>>>> forwarding to the list. >>>>> >>>>> Matt/Forbes, can someone please set the list to reply to the list > rather >>>>> than to the sender? Thanks, >>>>> >>>>> Matt, understood. I'd disagree with that plan of action though. We > need >>>>> our own show. It should be a fund raiser for WISPA. >>>>> >>>>> Near as I can tell Ed's planning on more of an ISPCon type of a show. > I >>>>> believe we need more of a WISPCon kind of event. Lower cost, more >>>>> >>>> intimate >>>> >>>>> etc. >>>>> >>>>> I'd suggest that we step back and set a show date for later in the > year. >>>>> >>>> It >>>> >>>>> shouldn't take more than a few months to put something together. We > know >>>>> who the vendors and attendees would be. And we know, basically, what >>>>> >>>> would >>>> >>>>> need to be presented. >>>>> >>>>> The members want a show. The vendors want a show. Someone just has to >>>>> DO >>>>> >>>> a >>>> >>>>> show. >>>>> >>>>> If we can't find anyone to run the effort that certainly changes > things. >>>>> I'm not interested in that job (putting together a Dirtbike one for > here >>>>> right now, it's not bad but does take time...) right now. >>>>> >>>>> laters, >>>>> marlon >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From:<li...@manageisp.com> >>>>> To: "Marlon K. Schafer"<o...@odessaoffice.com> >>>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 9:53 PM >>>>> Subject: Re: [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Marlon, >>>>>> The tentative plan with Ed's group is that we will put our efforts > into >>>>>> his show, and that we will not be doing our own show as long as both >>>>>> >>>> sides >>>> >>>>>> are happy with the performance of his show. >>>>>> Also, since we are not putting any money into it, there is no profit >>>>>> sharing. They put in the money and the manpower, they get the > profit, >>>>>> >>>> if >>>> >>>>>> there is any. Our goal in this is to build up our membership numbers >>>>>> >>>> and >>>> >>>>>> leverage their promotional and marketing efforts to get the word out >>>>>> >>>> about >>>> >>>>>> WISPA and get people to the show so we can turn them into members. >>>>>> This is going to end up similar to our agreement with ISPCON, but we >>>>>> will >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> have more say in the structure and educational parts of the show. >>>>>> Also, >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> it should cost us little or no money. >>>>>> Matt Larsen >>>>>> vistabeam.com >>>>>> Marlon K. Schafer writes: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Matt, In the end I still think we should have our own show. How >>>>>>> clear >>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>> will it be made to Ed's group that we'll still be working to our own >>>>>>> >>>> show >>>> >>>>>>> at a later date? Also, how are we going to insure that we don't end > up >>>>>>> with the same problem we did with Charles for his first show? Where >>>>>>> there is no profit to split? >>>>>>> marlon ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>> From: "Matt Larsen - Lists"<li...@manageisp.com> >>>>>>> To:<wispas...@wispa.org> >>>>>>> Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 10:59 PM >>>>>>> Subject: [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> After our visits with the people interested in the trade show and >>>>>>>> evaluating our options, Forbes and I are making the decision to work >>>>>>>> with Ed Meek's group to help promote their wireless show, with WISPA >>>>>>>> as >>>>>>>> one of the "anchors" of the show. >>>>>>>> The details are yet to be worked out. What has been discussed so > far >>>>>>>> is that WISPA will be featured prominently in the promotional > efforts, >>>>>>>> we will provide the educational tracks for the wireless broadband >>>>>>>> section of the show and we will have considerable influence on what >>>>>>>> events, speakers and specialized sessions (ISP-CEO type discussions) >>>>>>>> will be conducted as part of the show. We will also be able to >>>>>>>> re-start the WISPA awards and present them at the show. There was >>>>>>>> also a discussion about substantial discounts for WISPA members to >>>>>>>> attend - enough to highly incentivise attendees to join WISPA before >>>>>>>> >>>> the >>>> >>>>>>>> show. >>>>>>>> Rather than putting on our own show, we will play a large part in > this >>>>>>>> show. There will still be a lot of work to be done, and I will > share >>>>>>>> details after we get them worked out with the promoters. >>>>>>>> Any questions or concerns, please submit them on the list and we can >>>>>>>> >>>> get >>>> >>>>>>>> them worked out. >>>>>>>> Matt Larsen >>>>>>>> vistabeam.com >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> Wispashow mailing list >>>>>>>> wispas...@wispa.org >>>>>>>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wispashow >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Wispashow mailing list >>>>>>> wispas...@wispa.org >>>>>>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wispashow >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Wispashow mailing list >>>>> wispas...@wispa.org >>>>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wispashow >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>>> ---- >>>> WISPA Wants You! 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