Have I mentioned Columbus Ohio ? Downtown has everything, German Village, Italian Village, Victorian Village and Campus.
Oh food, wine and song as well. ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: "Chuck Hogg" <ch...@shelbybb.com> Reply-To: WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org> Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2010 12:10:24 -0500 >I agree here with Marlon that I am afraid that it will turn into an >ISPCon event. I learn and enjoy a show like MUM or AFMUG much better >than ISPCon. As both a Vendor and an ISP member, shows like ISPCon >don't have the intimacy like a smaller show does. I could care less if >it is in Vegas, or some other place, so long as it provides: > >1) A chance to meet with other companies in our industry, large, medium, >or small. >2) A chance to meet with other vendors and work with their special niche >in the market, and have those vendors be WISPA member vendors, not just >any vendor. >3) A highspeed internet connection to make sure I can stay in touch with >home to make sure business continues. >4) Close to the airport, reasonable accommodations, and good food is a >plus. >5) Be reasonable in price. $250 is WAYYYYY too much for me to attend as >an ISP to a tradeshow. > >Regards, >Chuck Hogg >Shelby Broadband >502-722-9292 >ch...@shelbybb.com >http://www.shelbybb.com > > >-----Original Message----- >From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer >Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 12:00 PM >To: WISPA General List >Cc: wispas...@wispa.org >Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show > >Hi Matt, > >I'm moving this back to the show list. I still request that wispashow >emails reply to that list not the public one :-). > >Anyway, I understand what you are saying. As our local Chamber of >Commerce >president here's my latest project: >http://www.odessachamber.net/bikeweek > >Almost all I'm doing is managing the folks doing the leg work. Herding >the >cats as it were... It's certainly quite a bit of work. > >We're expecting 200 to 400 people to show up during the week. On the >weekend the 40th annual Desert 100 race will bring in roughly 6000 >people. >http://www.stumpjumpers.org > >The race takes nearly an entire year to pull off. There is a race >chairman >and a vice. This year's vice becomes next year's chairman. Much of the > >physical work involves marking the track, a task that has to be done all > >over every year because the ground is normally a production cattle >ranch. > >I certainly agree with you that the lack of a very dedicated team of 2 >or 3 >people would certainly hurt our chances of success. If we can't get the > >help, have no one ready to step up and take ownership of the event etc. >we >need to find a different way. > >So far, however, this hasn't been hashed out on the show list. Perhaps >we >do have the people ready to dedicate themselves to the effort. > >Also, one thing that it seems to me that needs to be done is setting >some >kind of show expectation and outline. How many people are expected, how > >many vendors, do we want more training or display? How many speakers do >we >want? Who should speak? > >Much of the planning we'd have to do will be the same for our own show >or >one done by someone else. > >I've been to the big shows (WCA, ISPCon, and others). I've been to car >shows and gun shows. By far, my favorites are smaller more intimate >settings that are not making any real effort at playing the big shot. I > >don't care about fancy hotels, convention centers, NFL cities or any of >that. I want to see new product, learn from people better than me, and >spend time with my peers. > >My fear with Ed's group is that they will try to put on a fancy schmancy > >show in which the vendors will have to pay so much for floor space that >they'll demand access to the podiums and we'll end up with a "teaching" >track that's always slanted in the direction of products rather than the > >overall nature of our business. > >Having said all of that. My plate is already as full as I want it. >I'll >not be putting my time where my mouth is. grin I'm here to help with >thoughts and opinions via email but I'll help out as I can which ever >way >the rest of the committee wishes to see the show move. > >Thanks for taking the lead on this! >marlon > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Matt Larsen - Lists" <li...@manageisp.com> >To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> >Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 10:31 AM >Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show > > >> All due respect Marlon, but I'm going to disagree with your >assumptions. >> >> I have spent the last three months researching the possibility of >> putting on a show and evaluating our options. Before I started on >that >> process, I felt the same way that you do about WISPA putting on our >own >> show. I thought that it would be some work, but doable, and had some >> potential as a fund raiser. >> >> What was truly eye opening to me is the amount of work that is needed >to >> put a show on properly. IMHO, WISPCON got lucky on the first show >and >> then it degraded when the organizational and sales efforts did not >scale >> up to the potential of the show. The market is quite different right >> now, and I don't think that we would be as lucky as P-15 was back in >the >> day. >> >> Ed's group puts on trade shows - that is their focus. They are >willing >> to do it at no cost to us, and to help us build our membership up so >> that both sides will benefit. They don't know much about the WISP >> business, so we have an opportunity to work with them to design a show >> that our members would all like to go to. They are going to do it >on >> a much larger scale than what we had planned on doing, so we can >spread >> WISPAs message beyond our own little community. Those are strong >> positives. >> >> Most importantly, we will not have to commit our money or manpower to >> the project. Money is not that big of a deal, but manpower is. >We >> will not be able to put on a show with volunteer manpower, and it >isn't >> really a question of just hiring someone because the job requirements >go >> far beyond just being an ED type or a sales person. These guys have >a >> staff of people who specialize in this kind of work and can get it >done >> more effectively and at a larger scale than we could ever dream of >doing >> on our own. >> >> All this being said - if the show is a flop, there will be an "out" so >> that we can go back to plan A next year if that is what needs to >> happen. For 2010, it makes more sense to work with professionals to >> get a show put on. >> >> Matt Larsen >> vistabeam.com >> >> >> Marlon K. Schafer wrote: >>> forwarding to the list. >>> >>> Matt/Forbes, can someone please set the list to reply to the list >rather >>> than to the sender? Thanks, >>> >>> Matt, understood. I'd disagree with that plan of action though. We >need >>> our own show. It should be a fund raiser for WISPA. >>> >>> Near as I can tell Ed's planning on more of an ISPCon type of a show. >I >>> believe we need more of a WISPCon kind of event. Lower cost, more >>> intimate >>> etc. >>> >>> I'd suggest that we step back and set a show date for later in the >year. >>> It >>> shouldn't take more than a few months to put something together. We >know >>> who the vendors and attendees would be. And we know, basically, what > >>> would >>> need to be presented. >>> >>> The members want a show. The vendors want a show. Someone just has >to >>> DO a >>> show. >>> >>> If we can't find anyone to run the effort that certainly changes >things. >>> I'm not interested in that job (putting together a Dirtbike one for >here >>> right now, it's not bad but does take time...) right now. >>> >>> laters, >>> marlon >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: <li...@manageisp.com> >>> To: "Marlon K. Schafer" <o...@odessaoffice.com> >>> Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 9:53 PM >>> Subject: Re: [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show >>> >>> >>> >>>> Marlon, >>>> The tentative plan with Ed's group is that we will put our efforts >into >>>> his show, and that we will not be doing our own show as long as both > >>>> sides >>>> are happy with the performance of his show. >>>> Also, since we are not putting any money into it, there is no profit >>>> sharing. They put in the money and the manpower, they get the >profit, >>>> if >>>> there is any. Our goal in this is to build up our membership >numbers >>>> and >>>> leverage their promotional and marketing efforts to get the word out > >>>> about >>>> WISPA and get people to the show so we can turn them into members. >>>> This is going to end up similar to our agreement with ISPCON, but we > >>>> will >>>> have more say in the structure and educational parts of the show. >>>> Also, >>>> it should cost us little or no money. >>>> Matt Larsen >>>> vistabeam.com >>>> Marlon K. Schafer writes: >>>> >>>>> Hi Matt, In the end I still think we should have our own show. How >>>>> clear >>>>> will it be made to Ed's group that we'll still be working to our >own >>>>> show >>>>> at a later date? Also, how are we going to insure that we don't end >up >>>>> with the same problem we did with Charles for his first show? >Where >>>>> there is no profit to split? >>>>> marlon ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "Matt Larsen - Lists" <li...@manageisp.com> >>>>> To: <wispas...@wispa.org> >>>>> Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 10:59 PM >>>>> Subject: [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show >>>>> >>>>>> After our visits with the people interested in the trade show and >>>>>> evaluating our options, Forbes and I are making the decision to >work >>>>>> with Ed Meek's group to help promote their wireless show, with >WISPA >>>>>> as >>>>>> one of the "anchors" of the show. >>>>>> The details are yet to be worked out. What has been discussed so >far >>>>>> is that WISPA will be featured prominently in the promotional >efforts, >>>>>> we will provide the educational tracks for the wireless broadband >>>>>> section of the show and we will have considerable influence on >what >>>>>> events, speakers and specialized sessions (ISP-CEO type >discussions) >>>>>> will be conducted as part of the show. We will also be able to >>>>>> re-start the WISPA awards and present them at the show. There >was >>>>>> also a discussion about substantial discounts for WISPA members to >>>>>> attend - enough to highly incentivise attendees to join WISPA >before >>>>>> the >>>>>> show. >>>>>> Rather than putting on our own show, we will play a large part in >this >>>>>> show. There will still be a lot of work to be done, and I will >share >>>>>> details after we get them worked out with the promoters. >>>>>> Any questions or concerns, please submit them on the list and we >can >>>>>> get >>>>>> them worked out. >>>>>> Matt Larsen >>>>>> vistabeam.com >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Wispashow mailing list >>>>>> wispas...@wispa.org >>>>>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wispashow >>>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Wispashow mailing list >>>>> wispas...@wispa.org >>>>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wispashow >>>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wispashow mailing list >>> wispas...@wispa.org >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wispashow >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >-------- >> WISPA Wants You! 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