I see you're down on 35 so you're feeling the same weather we are. I have 3 customers that went down all in the same area around a 900 AP. Spoke with one of them and at least that one has power (and a generator!) I'm guessing the snow weighed down the antennas enough. The AP definitely isn't seeing any interference - it's a super low noise floor of -86. Changed channels around the band.
Wonder if those yagi radome's from WB would prevent this. Or those hideous parabolic grids. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 12:38 PM, Robert West <robert.w...@just-micro.com>wrote: > And that figures because the weather was nice all week but NOOOOOOOO!!!!!!! > I got stuck on service calls and finally have the time to install a > backhaul > today....... > > Sucks! > > > -----Original Message----- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Josh Luthman > Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 11:32 AM > To: spie...@avolve.net; WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show > > I can barely see down the street because of snow and in the next 24 hours > we're on a storm alert. > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > "Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue > that counts." > --- Winston Churchill > > > On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 11:22 AM, Stuart Pierce <spie...@avolve.net> wrote: > > > > > Hey now, the weather is nice today. Granted Columbus isn't Kettering, but > > hey, it's got more food. > > > > ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- > > From: Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> > > Reply-To: WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org> > > Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2010 10:44:30 -0500 > > > > >Ohio weather sucks. Zipline would be fun! > > > > > >Josh Luthman > > >Office: 937-552-2340 > > >Direct: 937-552-2343 > > >1100 Wayne St > > >Suite 1337 > > >Troy, OH 45373 > > > > > >"Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to > continue > > >that counts." > > >--- Winston Churchill > > > > > > > > >On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 10:43 AM, Robert West < > robert.w...@just-micro.com > > >wrote: > > > > > >> Me thinks Stuart likes Columbus. > > >> > > >> OSU grad, Stuart? > > >> > > >> I like the town too. A lot less than a cow town as it used to be. > > >> > > >> Bob- > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> -----Original Message----- > > >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] > On > > >> Behalf Of Stuart Pierce > > >> Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 9:37 AM > > >> To: WISPA General List > > >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show > > >> > > >> Have I mentioned Columbus Ohio ? Downtown has everything, German > > Village, > > >> Italian Village, Victorian Village and Campus. > > >> > > >> Oh food, wine and song as well. > > >> > > >> ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- > > >> From: "Chuck Hogg" <ch...@shelbybb.com> > > >> Reply-To: WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org> > > >> Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2010 12:10:24 -0500 > > >> > > >> >I agree here with Marlon that I am afraid that it will turn into an > > >> >ISPCon event. I learn and enjoy a show like MUM or AFMUG much better > > >> >than ISPCon. As both a Vendor and an ISP member, shows like ISPCon > > >> >don't have the intimacy like a smaller show does. I could care less > if > > >> >it is in Vegas, or some other place, so long as it provides: > > >> > > > >> >1) A chance to meet with other companies in our industry, large, > > medium, > > >> >or small. > > >> >2) A chance to meet with other vendors and work with their special > > niche > > >> >in the market, and have those vendors be WISPA member vendors, not > just > > >> >any vendor. > > >> >3) A highspeed internet connection to make sure I can stay in touch > > with > > >> >home to make sure business continues. > > >> >4) Close to the airport, reasonable accommodations, and good food is > a > > >> >plus. > > >> >5) Be reasonable in price. $250 is WAYYYYY too much for me to attend > > as > > >> >an ISP to a tradeshow. > > >> > > > >> >Regards, > > >> >Chuck Hogg > > >> >Shelby Broadband > > >> >502-722-9292 > > >> >ch...@shelbybb.com > > >> >http://www.shelbybb.com > > >> > > > >> > > > >> >-----Original Message----- > > >> >From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] > > On > > >> >Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer > > >> >Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 12:00 PM > > >> >To: WISPA General List > > >> >Cc: wispas...@wispa.org > > >> >Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show > > >> > > > >> >Hi Matt, > > >> > > > >> >I'm moving this back to the show list. I still request that > wispashow > > >> >emails reply to that list not the public one :-). > > >> > > > >> >Anyway, I understand what you are saying. As our local Chamber of > > >> >Commerce > > >> >president here's my latest project: > > >> >http://www.odessachamber.net/bikeweek > > >> > > > >> >Almost all I'm doing is managing the folks doing the leg work. > Herding > > >> >the > > >> >cats as it were... It's certainly quite a bit of work. > > >> > > > >> >We're expecting 200 to 400 people to show up during the week. On the > > >> >weekend the 40th annual Desert 100 race will bring in roughly 6000 > > >> >people. > > >> >http://www.stumpjumpers.org > > >> > > > >> >The race takes nearly an entire year to pull off. There is a race > > >> >chairman > > >> >and a vice. This year's vice becomes next year's chairman. Much of > > the > > >> > > > >> >physical work involves marking the track, a task that has to be done > > all > > >> > > > >> >over every year because the ground is normally a production cattle > > >> >ranch. > > >> > > > >> >I certainly agree with you that the lack of a very dedicated team of > 2 > > >> >or 3 > > >> >people would certainly hurt our chances of success. If we can't get > > the > > >> > > > >> >help, have no one ready to step up and take ownership of the event > etc. > > >> >we > > >> >need to find a different way. > > >> > > > >> >So far, however, this hasn't been hashed out on the show list. > Perhaps > > >> >we > > >> >do have the people ready to dedicate themselves to the effort. > > >> > > > >> >Also, one thing that it seems to me that needs to be done is setting > > >> >some > > >> >kind of show expectation and outline. How many people are expected, > > how > > >> > > > >> >many vendors, do we want more training or display? How many speakers > > do > > >> >we > > >> >want? Who should speak? > > >> > > > >> >Much of the planning we'd have to do will be the same for our own > show > > >> >or > > >> >one done by someone else. > > >> > > > >> >I've been to the big shows (WCA, ISPCon, and others). I've been to > car > > >> >shows and gun shows. By far, my favorites are smaller more intimate > > >> >settings that are not making any real effort at playing the big shot. > > I > > >> > > > >> >don't care about fancy hotels, convention centers, NFL cities or any > of > > >> >that. I want to see new product, learn from people better than me, > and > > >> >spend time with my peers. > > >> > > > >> >My fear with Ed's group is that they will try to put on a fancy > > schmancy > > >> > > > >> >show in which the vendors will have to pay so much for floor space > that > > >> >they'll demand access to the podiums and we'll end up with a > "teaching" > > >> >track that's always slanted in the direction of products rather than > > the > > >> > > > >> >overall nature of our business. > > >> > > > >> >Having said all of that. My plate is already as full as I want it. > > >> >I'll > > >> >not be putting my time where my mouth is. grin I'm here to help > with > > >> >thoughts and opinions via email but I'll help out as I can which ever > > >> >way > > >> >the rest of the committee wishes to see the show move. > > >> > > > >> >Thanks for taking the lead on this! > > >> >marlon > > >> > > > >> >----- Original Message ----- > > >> >From: "Matt Larsen - Lists" <li...@manageisp.com> > > >> >To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> > > >> >Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 10:31 AM > > >> >Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show > > >> > > > >> > > > >> >> All due respect Marlon, but I'm going to disagree with your > > >> >assumptions. > > >> >> > > >> >> I have spent the last three months researching the possibility of > > >> >> putting on a show and evaluating our options. Before I started on > > >> >that > > >> >> process, I felt the same way that you do about WISPA putting on our > > >> >own > > >> >> show. I thought that it would be some work, but doable, and had > > some > > >> >> potential as a fund raiser. > > >> >> > > >> >> What was truly eye opening to me is the amount of work that is > needed > > >> >to > > >> >> put a show on properly. IMHO, WISPCON got lucky on the first show > > >> >and > > >> >> then it degraded when the organizational and sales efforts did not > > >> >scale > > >> >> up to the potential of the show. The market is quite different > > right > > >> >> now, and I don't think that we would be as lucky as P-15 was back > in > > >> >the > > >> >> day. > > >> >> > > >> >> Ed's group puts on trade shows - that is their focus. They are > > >> >willing > > >> >> to do it at no cost to us, and to help us build our membership up > so > > >> >> that both sides will benefit. They don't know much about the WISP > > >> >> business, so we have an opportunity to work with them to design a > > show > > >> >> that our members would all like to go to. They are going to do > it > > >> >on > > >> >> a much larger scale than what we had planned on doing, so we can > > >> >spread > > >> >> WISPAs message beyond our own little community. Those are strong > > >> >> positives. > > >> >> > > >> >> Most importantly, we will not have to commit our money or manpower > to > > >> >> the project. Money is not that big of a deal, but manpower is. > > >> >We > > >> >> will not be able to put on a show with volunteer manpower, and it > > >> >isn't > > >> >> really a question of just hiring someone because the job > requirements > > >> >go > > >> >> far beyond just being an ED type or a sales person. These guys > have > > >> >a > > >> >> staff of people who specialize in this kind of work and can get it > > >> >done > > >> >> more effectively and at a larger scale than we could ever dream of > > >> >doing > > >> >> on our own. > > >> >> > > >> >> All this being said - if the show is a flop, there will be an "out" > > so > > >> >> that we can go back to plan A next year if that is what needs to > > >> >> happen. For 2010, it makes more sense to work with professionals > to > > >> >> get a show put on. > > >> >> > > >> >> Matt Larsen > > >> >> vistabeam.com > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> Marlon K. Schafer wrote: > > >> >>> forwarding to the list. > > >> >>> > > >> >>> Matt/Forbes, can someone please set the list to reply to the list > > >> >rather > > >> >>> than to the sender? Thanks, > > >> >>> > > >> >>> Matt, understood. I'd disagree with that plan of action though. > We > > >> >need > > >> >>> our own show. It should be a fund raiser for WISPA. > > >> >>> > > >> >>> Near as I can tell Ed's planning on more of an ISPCon type of a > > show. > > >> >I > > >> >>> believe we need more of a WISPCon kind of event. Lower cost, more > > >> >>> intimate > > >> >>> etc. > > >> >>> > > >> >>> I'd suggest that we step back and set a show date for later in the > > >> >year. > > >> >>> It > > >> >>> shouldn't take more than a few months to put something together. > We > > >> >know > > >> >>> who the vendors and attendees would be. And we know, basically, > > what > > >> > > > >> >>> would > > >> >>> need to be presented. > > >> >>> > > >> >>> The members want a show. The vendors want a show. Someone just > has > > >> >to > > >> >>> DO a > > >> >>> show. > > >> >>> > > >> >>> If we can't find anyone to run the effort that certainly changes > > >> >things. > > >> >>> I'm not interested in that job (putting together a Dirtbike one > for > > >> >here > > >> >>> right now, it's not bad but does take time...) right now. > > >> >>> > > >> >>> laters, > > >> >>> marlon > > >> >>> > > >> >>> ----- Original Message ----- > > >> >>> From: <li...@manageisp.com> > > >> >>> To: "Marlon K. Schafer" <o...@odessaoffice.com> > > >> >>> Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 9:53 PM > > >> >>> Subject: Re: [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>>> Marlon, > > >> >>>> The tentative plan with Ed's group is that we will put our > efforts > > >> >into > > >> >>>> his show, and that we will not be doing our own show as long as > > both > > >> > > > >> >>>> sides > > >> >>>> are happy with the performance of his show. > > >> >>>> Also, since we are not putting any money into it, there is no > > profit > > >> >>>> sharing. They put in the money and the manpower, they get the > > >> >profit, > > >> >>>> if > > >> >>>> there is any. Our goal in this is to build up our membership > > >> >numbers > > >> >>>> and > > >> >>>> leverage their promotional and marketing efforts to get the word > > out > > >> > > > >> >>>> about > > >> >>>> WISPA and get people to the show so we can turn them into > members. > > >> >>>> This is going to end up similar to our agreement with ISPCON, but > > we > > >> > > > >> >>>> will > > >> >>>> have more say in the structure and educational parts of the show. > > >> >>>> Also, > > >> >>>> it should cost us little or no money. > > >> >>>> Matt Larsen > > >> >>>> vistabeam.com > > >> >>>> Marlon K. Schafer writes: > > >> >>>> > > >> >>>>> Hi Matt, In the end I still think we should have our own show. > How > > >> >>>>> clear > > >> >>>>> will it be made to Ed's group that we'll still be working to our > > >> >own > > >> >>>>> show > > >> >>>>> at a later date? Also, how are we going to insure that we don't > > end > > >> >up > > >> >>>>> with the same problem we did with Charles for his first show? > > >> >Where > > >> >>>>> there is no profit to split? > > >> >>>>> marlon ----- Original Message ----- > > >> >>>>> From: "Matt Larsen - Lists" <li...@manageisp.com> > > >> >>>>> To: <wispas...@wispa.org> > > >> >>>>> Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 10:59 PM > > >> >>>>> Subject: [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show > > >> >>>>> > > >> >>>>>> After our visits with the people interested in the trade show > and > > >> >>>>>> evaluating our options, Forbes and I are making the decision to > > >> >work > > >> >>>>>> with Ed Meek's group to help promote their wireless show, with > > >> >WISPA > > >> >>>>>> as > > >> >>>>>> one of the "anchors" of the show. > > >> >>>>>> The details are yet to be worked out. What has been discussed > > so > > >> >far > > >> >>>>>> is that WISPA will be featured prominently in the promotional > > >> >efforts, > > >> >>>>>> we will provide the educational tracks for the wireless > broadband > > >> >>>>>> section of the show and we will have considerable influence on > > >> >what > > >> >>>>>> events, speakers and specialized sessions (ISP-CEO type > > >> >discussions) > > >> >>>>>> will be conducted as part of the show. We will also be able > to > > >> >>>>>> re-start the WISPA awards and present them at the show. > There > > >> >was > > >> >>>>>> also a discussion about substantial discounts for WISPA members > > to > > >> >>>>>> attend - enough to highly incentivise attendees to join WISPA > > >> >before > > >> >>>>>> the > > >> >>>>>> show. > > >> >>>>>> Rather than putting on our own show, we will play a large part > in > > >> >this > > >> >>>>>> show. 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