I'd be up for Vegas. I personally like conventions there...lots of fun and I'm usually doing too much business to bring the family anyway. Just my 2 cents.
Cameron > Central is better. I like not losing a day for travel. I thought St. Louis > was suggested at one point, which seems like a decent idea. > > -Matt > > On Feb 8, 2010, at 9:49 AM, Tom DeReggi wrote: > >> I personally like central shows because less travel time and less time >> zone >> change for all America attending. As well, this even is targeted as a >> RURAL >> conference, and might make sense for it to be closer to more Rural >> market. >> I'd argue there are more Rural locations in the Western States. But.... >> Orlando is one of the lowest cost venue places for shows in a major >> market >> (after considering all extra costs) and Flights are always pretty cheap, >> even from the west coast. >> >> Tom DeReggi >> RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc >> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Chuck Hogg" <ch...@shelbybb.com> >> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> >> Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 9:38 AM >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show >> >> >> Tickets to Orlando for me are dirt cheap. Always have been. From KY to >> Orlando for the FISPA conference next month it's only $222 roundtrip. >> >> Regards, >> Chuck Hogg >> Shelby Broadband >> 502-722-9292 >> ch...@shelbybb.com >> http://www.shelbybb.com >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >> Behalf Of Jayson Baker >> Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 9:37 AM >> To: WISPA General List >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show >> >> You're wanting to go on a family vacation? I thought this was to be a >> WISP >> conference. Like, for WISP operators. >> I, personally, have no intention of spending that much for airline >> tickets, >> and going to play with Mickey Mouse while I'm at a conference. >> >> On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 6:44 AM, Dylan Bouterse >> <dy...@corp.power1.com>wrote: >> >>> Orlando! >>> >>> We have the 4 Disney parks, Universal Studios, Blue Men, Sea World, >>> I-Drive >>> area, Kissimmee area and a WHOLE lot more. I'm not aware of any zip >>> lines >>> though. :oP >>> >>> Dylan >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >>> Behalf Of Mike >>> Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 8:29 AM >>> To: 'WISPA General List' >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show >>> >>> Phoenix. Dry and warm. >>> >>> *OR* I live 5 minutes up the hill from a world class casino and hotel >>> complex. http://www.meskwaki.com/ >>> >>> I could host, and you could take turns climbing my towers, and riding >>> the >>> zip lines here at Gilly Hollow. One of them is a terror at 750 feet. >>> >>> Mike >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >>> Behalf Of Robert West >>> Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 11:18 PM >>> To: 'WISPA General List' >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show >>> >>> I'm the same. If Vegas, I'd pass. Having shows in Vegas isn't about >>> the >>> show, it's about Vegas. The show is just the vehicle to use to get >>> there. >>> A show in Vegas has become a cliché. >>> >>> Bob- >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >>> Behalf Of Glenn Kelley >>> Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 11:39 AM >>> To: WISPA General List >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show >>> >>> I was just in Vegas for the Ubiquity meeting >>> >>> If you are planning to take your family anywhere - VEGAS is not the >>> place - >>> IMHO >>> >>> When you get off the plane and exit the airport you are handed >>> pamphlets >>> for >>> prostitutes to come to your hotel room from $25/ hr >>> Having 3 daughters and 1 son ... I can tell you - this is hardly the >>> place >>> I >>> would like to take my family on vacation. >>> >>> Disney sounds better ;-) >>> >>> Of course this is all business - - going out to Columbus, Philadelphia, >>> Indy, Chicago, Denver - yeah - much nicer... >>> >>> >>> >>> ____________________________________________________________________________ >>> _________ >>> Glenn Kelley | Principle | HostMedic |www.HostMedic.com >>> Email: gl...@hostmedic.com >>> Pplease don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. >>> >>> On Feb 4, 2010, at 11:23 AM, Randy Cosby wrote: >>> >>>> Next time, drive up to Mesquite (1.25 hours) or St. George - Great >>>> rooms / prices you can feel good about taking the family to. :) >>>> >>>> Randy >>>> >>>> >>>> On 2/4/2010 9:12 AM, Eje Gustafsson wrote: >>>>> *shudder* Reminds me of WISPCon in Vegas. The WISPCon hotel screwed >>>>> up >>> my >>>>> families reserveration. Roadeo show in town and one other large >>> conference. >>>>> There was not a hotel room in entire Vegas, Henderson or anywhere >>>>> close >>>>> enough to drive to. Got to the hotel around 7pm to find out there was >>>>> no >>>>> available room for us. We called probably 100 different places and >>> visited >>>>> probably another 40+ places, pleading and begging for a room. We >>>>> didn't >>> even >>>>> find any rooms at the ones that only rented per week. >>>>> Me, my wife, one baby and one toddler. >>>>> Finally about 2:30am we gave up and ended up sleeping in our rental >>> minivan >>>>> on the parking lot. In the middle of the night by accident set of the >>> car >>>>> alarm. Got kicked off the lot by the Casino security guards. Dumb ass >>>>> suggested we drive downtown and take in on a hotel that charge by the >>> hour. >>>>> Yeah exactly the place I want to take 2 small children.. Parking the >>>>> car >>> on >>>>> a street and sleeping in it was out of the question. We circled the >>> block >>>>> parked at a different location at the Casino parking area and went >>>>> back >>> to >>>>> sleep. >>>>> >>>>> The memories.. Might have to do that again but without the kids ;) >>>>> >>>>> / Eje >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] >>>>> On >>>>> Behalf Of lakel...@gbcx.net >>>>> Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 10:00 AM >>>>> To: WISPA General List >>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show >>>>> >>>>> 10+ years ago I remember making a deal with a hotel to take a shower >>>>> in >>> a >>>>> room that was being refurbished after driving through he night from >>>>> NY. >>> No >>>>> available rooms for 50 miles. >>>>> >>>>> I should throw all my crap into a U-haul truck, drive it out there >>>>> and >>>>> abandon the thing! LOL >>>>> >>>>> -B- >>>>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: "Blake Bowers"<bbow...@mozarks.com> >>>>> Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 22:36:47 >>>>> To:<bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com>; WISPA General List< >>> wireless@wispa.org> >>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show >>>>> >>>>> I have never had a problem finding rooms at Dayton, usually with my >>>>> normal reservations taking place 2-3 days before the show. Never. >>>>> >>>>> Now, the hamvention, like all the other hamfests, is no where near as >>> packed >>>>> >>>>> as >>>>> it was 10 years ago too. >>>>> >>>>> 4 years ago I did not even have reservations and found rooms at the >>> first >>>>> place I stopped at, a Drury. >>>>> >>>>> Don't take your organs to heaven, >>>>> heaven knows we need them down here! >>>>> Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "Brian Webster"<bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com> >>>>> To: "WISPA General List"<wireless@wispa.org> >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 9:04 PM >>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Not a bad idea, Dayton would be problematic as it has limited >>>>>> lodging >>> in >>>>>> the >>>>>> area and the hams already book that capacity up long before the >>>>>> convention. >>>>>> There are other large regional hamfests that might be a good fit for >>> your >>>>>> idea however. The one problem that may arise from those is that the >>>>>> locations in many cases won't be in areas where the airports have a >>>>>> lot >>> of >>>>>> competition so the WISP attendees would more than likely have to pay >>>>>> higher >>>>>> airfare. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Thank You, >>>>>> Brian Webster >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org >>>>>> [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]on >>>>>> Behalf Of Robert West >>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 9:06 PM >>>>>> To: 'WISPA General List' >>>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Okay, I'd like to throw an idea out there and see who yells...... >>>>>> >>>>>> I had a thought that maybe it could be held at the same time as one >>>>>> of >>> the >>>>>> large Ham conventions, like the one they hold in Dayton, Ohio. Only >>>>>> so >>>>>> much >>>>>> I can see and do at a 3 day event, would be great to be able to go >>> across >>>>>> town or wherever to another event that would have a lot of the same >>> sort >>>>>> of >>>>>> towers, tools, safety gear that we use as Wisp operators. No way >>>>>> would >>> we >>>>>> get these type of vendors to come to a Wisp only show, in my >>>>>> opinion. >>> The >>>>>> bonus is, it could be used as a marketing tool to bring in even more >>>>>> people >>>>>> without any more effort. I'd certainly go out of my way for an >>>>>> event >>> that >>>>>> would cover radio gear as well as the hardware and safety. A lot of >>>>>> us >>>>>> WISP >>>>>> operators deal with HAMS and go to their conventions anyhow. >>>>>> Unless, >>> of >>>>>> course, the WISPA show is stuffed with a full assortment of what we >>> use. >>>>>> :) >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Anyway, just an idea. >>>>>> >>>>>> Bob- >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] >>> On >>>>>> Behalf Of Matt Larsen - Lists >>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 1:31 PM >>>>>> To: WISPA General List >>>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show >>>>>> >>>>>> All due respect Marlon, but I'm going to disagree with your >>> assumptions. >>>>>> >>>>>> I have spent the last three months researching the possibility of >>>>>> putting on a show and evaluating our options. Before I started on >>> that >>>>>> process, I felt the same way that you do about WISPA putting on our >>>>>> own >>>>>> show. I thought that it would be some work, but doable, and had >>>>>> some >>>>>> potential as a fund raiser. >>>>>> >>>>>> What was truly eye opening to me is the amount of work that is >>>>>> needed >>> to >>>>>> put a show on properly. IMHO, WISPCON got lucky on the first show >>>>>> and >>>>>> then it degraded when the organizational and sales efforts did not >>> scale >>>>>> up to the potential of the show. The market is quite different >>>>>> right >>>>>> now, and I don't think that we would be as lucky as P-15 was back in >>> the >>>>>> day. >>>>>> >>>>>> Ed's group puts on trade shows - that is their focus. They are >>> willing >>>>>> to do it at no cost to us, and to help us build our membership up so >>>>>> that both sides will benefit. They don't know much about the WISP >>>>>> business, so we have an opportunity to work with them to design a >>>>>> show >>>>>> that our members would all like to go to. They are going to do it >>>>>> on >>>>>> a much larger scale than what we had planned on doing, so we can >>>>>> spread >>>>>> WISPAs message beyond our own little community. Those are strong >>>>>> positives. >>>>>> >>>>>> Most importantly, we will not have to commit our money or manpower >>>>>> to >>>>>> the project. Money is not that big of a deal, but manpower is. >>>>>> We >>>>>> will not be able to put on a show with volunteer manpower, and it >>>>>> isn't >>>>>> really a question of just hiring someone because the job >>>>>> requirements >>> go >>>>>> far beyond just being an ED type or a sales person. These guys >>>>>> have >>>>>> a >>>>>> staff of people who specialize in this kind of work and can get it >>>>>> done >>>>>> more effectively and at a larger scale than we could ever dream of >>> doing >>>>>> on our own. >>>>>> >>>>>> All this being said - if the show is a flop, there will be an "out" >>>>>> so >>>>>> that we can go back to plan A next year if that is what needs to >>>>>> happen. For 2010, it makes more sense to work with professionals >>>>>> to >>>>>> get a show put on. >>>>>> >>>>>> Matt Larsen >>>>>> vistabeam.com >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Marlon K. Schafer wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> forwarding to the list. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Matt/Forbes, can someone please set the list to reply to the list >>> rather >>>>>>> than to the sender? Thanks, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Matt, understood. I'd disagree with that plan of action though. >>>>>>> We >>> need >>>>>>> our own show. It should be a fund raiser for WISPA. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Near as I can tell Ed's planning on more of an ISPCon type of a >>>>>>> show. >>> I >>>>>>> believe we need more of a WISPCon kind of event. Lower cost, more >>>>>>> >>>>>> intimate >>>>>> >>>>>>> etc. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'd suggest that we step back and set a show date for later in the >>> year. >>>>>>> >>>>>> It >>>>>> >>>>>>> shouldn't take more than a few months to put something together. >>>>>>> We >>> know >>>>>>> who the vendors and attendees would be. And we know, basically, >>>>>>> what >>>>>>> >>>>>> would >>>>>> >>>>>>> need to be presented. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The members want a show. The vendors want a show. Someone just >>>>>>> has >>> to >>>>>>> DO >>>>>>> >>>>>> a >>>>>> >>>>>>> show. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If we can't find anyone to run the effort that certainly changes >>> things. >>>>>>> I'm not interested in that job (putting together a Dirtbike one for >>> here >>>>>>> right now, it's not bad but does take time...) right now. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> laters, >>>>>>> marlon >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>> From:<li...@manageisp.com> >>>>>>> To: "Marlon K. Schafer"<o...@odessaoffice.com> >>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 9:53 PM >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Marlon, >>>>>>>> The tentative plan with Ed's group is that we will put our efforts >>> into >>>>>>>> his show, and that we will not be doing our own show as long as >>>>>>>> both >>>>>>>> >>>>>> sides >>>>>> >>>>>>>> are happy with the performance of his show. >>>>>>>> Also, since we are not putting any money into it, there is no >>>>>>>> profit >>>>>>>> sharing. They put in the money and the manpower, they get the >>> profit, >>>>>>>> >>>>>> if >>>>>> >>>>>>>> there is any. Our goal in this is to build up our membership >>> numbers >>>>>>>> >>>>>> and >>>>>> >>>>>>>> leverage their promotional and marketing efforts to get the word >>>>>>>> out >>>>>>>> >>>>>> about >>>>>> >>>>>>>> WISPA and get people to the show so we can turn them into members. >>>>>>>> This is going to end up similar to our agreement with ISPCON, but >>>>>>>> we >>>>>>>> will >>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>> have more say in the structure and educational parts of the show. >>>>>>>> Also, >>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>> it should cost us little or no money. >>>>>>>> Matt Larsen >>>>>>>> vistabeam.com >>>>>>>> Marlon K. Schafer writes: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi Matt, In the end I still think we should have our own show. >>>>>>>>> How >>>>>>>>> clear >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>> will it be made to Ed's group that we'll still be working to our >>>>>>>>> own >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> show >>>>>> >>>>>>>>> at a later date? Also, how are we going to insure that we don't >>>>>>>>> end >>> up >>>>>>>>> with the same problem we did with Charles for his first show? >>>>>>>>> Where >>>>>>>>> there is no profit to split? >>>>>>>>> marlon ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>>> From: "Matt Larsen - Lists"<li...@manageisp.com> >>>>>>>>> To:<wispas...@wispa.org> >>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 10:59 PM >>>>>>>>> Subject: [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> After our visits with the people interested in the trade show >>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>> evaluating our options, Forbes and I are making the decision to >>> work >>>>>>>>>> with Ed Meek's group to help promote their wireless show, with >>> WISPA >>>>>>>>>> as >>>>>>>>>> one of the "anchors" of the show. >>>>>>>>>> The details are yet to be worked out. What has been discussed >>>>>>>>>> so >>> far >>>>>>>>>> is that WISPA will be featured prominently in the promotional >>> efforts, >>>>>>>>>> we will provide the educational tracks for the wireless >>>>>>>>>> broadband >>>>>>>>>> section of the show and we will have considerable influence on >>>>>>>>>> what >>>>>>>>>> events, speakers and specialized sessions (ISP-CEO type >>> discussions) >>>>>>>>>> will be conducted as part of the show. We will also be able to >>>>>>>>>> re-start the WISPA awards and present them at the show. There >>> was >>>>>>>>>> also a discussion about substantial discounts for WISPA members >>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>> attend - enough to highly incentivise attendees to join WISPA >>> before >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> the >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> show. >>>>>>>>>> Rather than putting on our own show, we will play a large part >>>>>>>>>> in >>> this >>>>>>>>>> show. There will still be a lot of work to be done, and I will >>> share >>>>>>>>>> details after we get them worked out with the promoters. >>>>>>>>>> Any questions or concerns, please submit them on the list and we >>> can >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> get >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> them worked out. >>>>>>>>>> Matt Larsen >>>>>>>>>> vistabeam.com >>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>> Wispashow mailing list >>>>>>>>>> wispas...@wispa.org >>>>>>>>>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wispashow >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> Wispashow mailing list >>>>>>>>> wispas...@wispa.org >>>>>>>>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wispashow >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Wispashow mailing list >>>>>>> wispas...@wispa.org >>>>>>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wispashow >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> >>>>>> ---- >>>>>> WISPA Wants You! 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