Central is better. I like not losing a day for travel. I thought St. Louis was suggested at one point, which seems like a decent idea.
-Matt On Feb 8, 2010, at 9:49 AM, Tom DeReggi wrote: > I personally like central shows because less travel time and less time zone > change for all America attending. As well, this even is targeted as a RURAL > conference, and might make sense for it to be closer to more Rural market. > I'd argue there are more Rural locations in the Western States. But.... > Orlando is one of the lowest cost venue places for shows in a major market > (after considering all extra costs) and Flights are always pretty cheap, > even from the west coast. > > Tom DeReggi > RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc > IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Chuck Hogg" <ch...@shelbybb.com> > To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> > Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 9:38 AM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show > > > Tickets to Orlando for me are dirt cheap. Always have been. From KY to > Orlando for the FISPA conference next month it's only $222 roundtrip. > > Regards, > Chuck Hogg > Shelby Broadband > 502-722-9292 > ch...@shelbybb.com > http://www.shelbybb.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Jayson Baker > Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 9:37 AM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show > > You're wanting to go on a family vacation? I thought this was to be a WISP > conference. Like, for WISP operators. > I, personally, have no intention of spending that much for airline tickets, > and going to play with Mickey Mouse while I'm at a conference. > > On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 6:44 AM, Dylan Bouterse <dy...@corp.power1.com>wrote: > >> Orlando! >> >> We have the 4 Disney parks, Universal Studios, Blue Men, Sea World, >> I-Drive >> area, Kissimmee area and a WHOLE lot more. I'm not aware of any zip lines >> though. :oP >> >> Dylan >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >> Behalf Of Mike >> Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 8:29 AM >> To: 'WISPA General List' >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show >> >> Phoenix. Dry and warm. >> >> *OR* I live 5 minutes up the hill from a world class casino and hotel >> complex. http://www.meskwaki.com/ >> >> I could host, and you could take turns climbing my towers, and riding the >> zip lines here at Gilly Hollow. One of them is a terror at 750 feet. >> >> Mike >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >> Behalf Of Robert West >> Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 11:18 PM >> To: 'WISPA General List' >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show >> >> I'm the same. If Vegas, I'd pass. Having shows in Vegas isn't about the >> show, it's about Vegas. The show is just the vehicle to use to get there. >> A show in Vegas has become a cliché. >> >> Bob- >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >> Behalf Of Glenn Kelley >> Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 11:39 AM >> To: WISPA General List >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show >> >> I was just in Vegas for the Ubiquity meeting >> >> If you are planning to take your family anywhere - VEGAS is not the >> place - >> IMHO >> >> When you get off the plane and exit the airport you are handed pamphlets >> for >> prostitutes to come to your hotel room from $25/ hr >> Having 3 daughters and 1 son ... I can tell you - this is hardly the place >> I >> would like to take my family on vacation. >> >> Disney sounds better ;-) >> >> Of course this is all business - - going out to Columbus, Philadelphia, >> Indy, Chicago, Denver - yeah - much nicer... >> >> >> >> ____________________________________________________________________________ >> _________ >> Glenn Kelley | Principle | HostMedic |www.HostMedic.com >> Email: gl...@hostmedic.com >> Pplease don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. >> >> On Feb 4, 2010, at 11:23 AM, Randy Cosby wrote: >> >>> Next time, drive up to Mesquite (1.25 hours) or St. George - Great >>> rooms / prices you can feel good about taking the family to. :) >>> >>> Randy >>> >>> >>> On 2/4/2010 9:12 AM, Eje Gustafsson wrote: >>>> *shudder* Reminds me of WISPCon in Vegas. The WISPCon hotel screwed up >> my >>>> families reserveration. Roadeo show in town and one other large >> conference. >>>> There was not a hotel room in entire Vegas, Henderson or anywhere close >>>> enough to drive to. Got to the hotel around 7pm to find out there was >>>> no >>>> available room for us. We called probably 100 different places and >> visited >>>> probably another 40+ places, pleading and begging for a room. We didn't >> even >>>> find any rooms at the ones that only rented per week. >>>> Me, my wife, one baby and one toddler. >>>> Finally about 2:30am we gave up and ended up sleeping in our rental >> minivan >>>> on the parking lot. In the middle of the night by accident set of the >> car >>>> alarm. Got kicked off the lot by the Casino security guards. Dumb ass >>>> suggested we drive downtown and take in on a hotel that charge by the >> hour. >>>> Yeah exactly the place I want to take 2 small children.. Parking the >>>> car >> on >>>> a street and sleeping in it was out of the question. We circled the >> block >>>> parked at a different location at the Casino parking area and went back >> to >>>> sleep. >>>> >>>> The memories.. Might have to do that again but without the kids ;) >>>> >>>> / Eje >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >>>> Behalf Of lakel...@gbcx.net >>>> Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 10:00 AM >>>> To: WISPA General List >>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show >>>> >>>> 10+ years ago I remember making a deal with a hotel to take a shower in >> a >>>> room that was being refurbished after driving through he night from NY. >> No >>>> available rooms for 50 miles. >>>> >>>> I should throw all my crap into a U-haul truck, drive it out there and >>>> abandon the thing! LOL >>>> >>>> -B- >>>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: "Blake Bowers"<bbow...@mozarks.com> >>>> Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 22:36:47 >>>> To:<bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com>; WISPA General List< >> wireless@wispa.org> >>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show >>>> >>>> I have never had a problem finding rooms at Dayton, usually with my >>>> normal reservations taking place 2-3 days before the show. Never. >>>> >>>> Now, the hamvention, like all the other hamfests, is no where near as >> packed >>>> >>>> as >>>> it was 10 years ago too. >>>> >>>> 4 years ago I did not even have reservations and found rooms at the >> first >>>> place I stopped at, a Drury. >>>> >>>> Don't take your organs to heaven, >>>> heaven knows we need them down here! >>>> Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Brian Webster"<bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com> >>>> To: "WISPA General List"<wireless@wispa.org> >>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 9:04 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> Not a bad idea, Dayton would be problematic as it has limited lodging >> in >>>>> the >>>>> area and the hams already book that capacity up long before the >>>>> convention. >>>>> There are other large regional hamfests that might be a good fit for >> your >>>>> idea however. The one problem that may arise from those is that the >>>>> locations in many cases won't be in areas where the airports have a >>>>> lot >> of >>>>> competition so the WISP attendees would more than likely have to pay >>>>> higher >>>>> airfare. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Thank You, >>>>> Brian Webster >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]on >>>>> Behalf Of Robert West >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 9:06 PM >>>>> To: 'WISPA General List' >>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Okay, I'd like to throw an idea out there and see who yells...... >>>>> >>>>> I had a thought that maybe it could be held at the same time as one of >> the >>>>> large Ham conventions, like the one they hold in Dayton, Ohio. Only >>>>> so >>>>> much >>>>> I can see and do at a 3 day event, would be great to be able to go >> across >>>>> town or wherever to another event that would have a lot of the same >> sort >>>>> of >>>>> towers, tools, safety gear that we use as Wisp operators. No way >>>>> would >> we >>>>> get these type of vendors to come to a Wisp only show, in my opinion. >> The >>>>> bonus is, it could be used as a marketing tool to bring in even more >>>>> people >>>>> without any more effort. I'd certainly go out of my way for an event >> that >>>>> would cover radio gear as well as the hardware and safety. A lot of >>>>> us >>>>> WISP >>>>> operators deal with HAMS and go to their conventions anyhow. Unless, >> of >>>>> course, the WISPA show is stuffed with a full assortment of what we >> use. >>>>> :) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Anyway, just an idea. >>>>> >>>>> Bob- >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] >> On >>>>> Behalf Of Matt Larsen - Lists >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 1:31 PM >>>>> To: WISPA General List >>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show >>>>> >>>>> All due respect Marlon, but I'm going to disagree with your >> assumptions. >>>>> >>>>> I have spent the last three months researching the possibility of >>>>> putting on a show and evaluating our options. Before I started on >> that >>>>> process, I felt the same way that you do about WISPA putting on our >>>>> own >>>>> show. I thought that it would be some work, but doable, and had some >>>>> potential as a fund raiser. >>>>> >>>>> What was truly eye opening to me is the amount of work that is needed >> to >>>>> put a show on properly. IMHO, WISPCON got lucky on the first show >>>>> and >>>>> then it degraded when the organizational and sales efforts did not >> scale >>>>> up to the potential of the show. The market is quite different right >>>>> now, and I don't think that we would be as lucky as P-15 was back in >> the >>>>> day. >>>>> >>>>> Ed's group puts on trade shows - that is their focus. They are >> willing >>>>> to do it at no cost to us, and to help us build our membership up so >>>>> that both sides will benefit. They don't know much about the WISP >>>>> business, so we have an opportunity to work with them to design a show >>>>> that our members would all like to go to. They are going to do it >>>>> on >>>>> a much larger scale than what we had planned on doing, so we can >>>>> spread >>>>> WISPAs message beyond our own little community. Those are strong >>>>> positives. >>>>> >>>>> Most importantly, we will not have to commit our money or manpower to >>>>> the project. Money is not that big of a deal, but manpower is. >>>>> We >>>>> will not be able to put on a show with volunteer manpower, and it >>>>> isn't >>>>> really a question of just hiring someone because the job requirements >> go >>>>> far beyond just being an ED type or a sales person. These guys have >>>>> a >>>>> staff of people who specialize in this kind of work and can get it >>>>> done >>>>> more effectively and at a larger scale than we could ever dream of >> doing >>>>> on our own. >>>>> >>>>> All this being said - if the show is a flop, there will be an "out" so >>>>> that we can go back to plan A next year if that is what needs to >>>>> happen. For 2010, it makes more sense to work with professionals to >>>>> get a show put on. >>>>> >>>>> Matt Larsen >>>>> vistabeam.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Marlon K. Schafer wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> forwarding to the list. >>>>>> >>>>>> Matt/Forbes, can someone please set the list to reply to the list >> rather >>>>>> than to the sender? Thanks, >>>>>> >>>>>> Matt, understood. I'd disagree with that plan of action though. We >> need >>>>>> our own show. It should be a fund raiser for WISPA. >>>>>> >>>>>> Near as I can tell Ed's planning on more of an ISPCon type of a show. >> I >>>>>> believe we need more of a WISPCon kind of event. Lower cost, more >>>>>> >>>>> intimate >>>>> >>>>>> etc. >>>>>> >>>>>> I'd suggest that we step back and set a show date for later in the >> year. >>>>>> >>>>> It >>>>> >>>>>> shouldn't take more than a few months to put something together. We >> know >>>>>> who the vendors and attendees would be. And we know, basically, what >>>>>> >>>>> would >>>>> >>>>>> need to be presented. >>>>>> >>>>>> The members want a show. The vendors want a show. Someone just has >> to >>>>>> DO >>>>>> >>>>> a >>>>> >>>>>> show. >>>>>> >>>>>> If we can't find anyone to run the effort that certainly changes >> things. >>>>>> I'm not interested in that job (putting together a Dirtbike one for >> here >>>>>> right now, it's not bad but does take time...) right now. >>>>>> >>>>>> laters, >>>>>> marlon >>>>>> >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>> From:<li...@manageisp.com> >>>>>> To: "Marlon K. Schafer"<o...@odessaoffice.com> >>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 9:53 PM >>>>>> Subject: Re: [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Marlon, >>>>>>> The tentative plan with Ed's group is that we will put our efforts >> into >>>>>>> his show, and that we will not be doing our own show as long as both >>>>>>> >>>>> sides >>>>> >>>>>>> are happy with the performance of his show. >>>>>>> Also, since we are not putting any money into it, there is no profit >>>>>>> sharing. They put in the money and the manpower, they get the >> profit, >>>>>>> >>>>> if >>>>> >>>>>>> there is any. Our goal in this is to build up our membership >> numbers >>>>>>> >>>>> and >>>>> >>>>>>> leverage their promotional and marketing efforts to get the word out >>>>>>> >>>>> about >>>>> >>>>>>> WISPA and get people to the show so we can turn them into members. >>>>>>> This is going to end up similar to our agreement with ISPCON, but we >>>>>>> will >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>> have more say in the structure and educational parts of the show. >>>>>>> Also, >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>> it should cost us little or no money. >>>>>>> Matt Larsen >>>>>>> vistabeam.com >>>>>>> Marlon K. Schafer writes: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi Matt, In the end I still think we should have our own show. How >>>>>>>> clear >>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>> will it be made to Ed's group that we'll still be working to our >>>>>>>> own >>>>>>>> >>>>> show >>>>> >>>>>>>> at a later date? Also, how are we going to insure that we don't end >> up >>>>>>>> with the same problem we did with Charles for his first show? >>>>>>>> Where >>>>>>>> there is no profit to split? >>>>>>>> marlon ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>> From: "Matt Larsen - Lists"<li...@manageisp.com> >>>>>>>> To:<wispas...@wispa.org> >>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 10:59 PM >>>>>>>> Subject: [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> After our visits with the people interested in the trade show and >>>>>>>>> evaluating our options, Forbes and I are making the decision to >> work >>>>>>>>> with Ed Meek's group to help promote their wireless show, with >> WISPA >>>>>>>>> as >>>>>>>>> one of the "anchors" of the show. >>>>>>>>> The details are yet to be worked out. What has been discussed so >> far >>>>>>>>> is that WISPA will be featured prominently in the promotional >> efforts, >>>>>>>>> we will provide the educational tracks for the wireless broadband >>>>>>>>> section of the show and we will have considerable influence on >>>>>>>>> what >>>>>>>>> events, speakers and specialized sessions (ISP-CEO type >> discussions) >>>>>>>>> will be conducted as part of the show. We will also be able to >>>>>>>>> re-start the WISPA awards and present them at the show. There >> was >>>>>>>>> also a discussion about substantial discounts for WISPA members to >>>>>>>>> attend - enough to highly incentivise attendees to join WISPA >> before >>>>>>>>> >>>>> the >>>>> >>>>>>>>> show. >>>>>>>>> Rather than putting on our own show, we will play a large part in >> this >>>>>>>>> show. There will still be a lot of work to be done, and I will >> share >>>>>>>>> details after we get them worked out with the promoters. >>>>>>>>> Any questions or concerns, please submit them on the list and we >> can >>>>>>>>> >>>>> get >>>>> >>>>>>>>> them worked out. >>>>>>>>> Matt Larsen >>>>>>>>> vistabeam.com >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> Wispashow mailing list >>>>>>>>> wispas...@wispa.org >>>>>>>>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wispashow >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> Wispashow mailing list >>>>>>>> wispas...@wispa.org >>>>>>>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wispashow >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Wispashow mailing list >>>>>> wispas...@wispa.org >>>>>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wispashow >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> >>>>> ---- >>>>> WISPA Wants You! 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