Bob,

We do the same here. Day one ROI upon installation. Not having any
problems getting customers,  In fact, we're growing faster than we
ever have. Of course, there is a lot more to the cost of operating
than just ROI upon install. Our lowest plan is $49.99/month. Which is
the reason I responded to Jayson's post:

Jayson Baker <jay...@spectrasurf.com> wrote:
"$24.95/mo gets you 12Mbps/6Mbps.  $49.95/mo gets you 20Mbps/6Mbps. We
guarantee minimums--not just an "up to" speed"

I'm always game to learn something. Every business model I've ever
done only shows profit at $50/month ARPU. I'm just wondering if &
where I'm going wrong.
-RickG

On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 6:34 PM, Robert West <robert.w...@just-micro.com> wrote:
> Using UBNT, we have a zero day ROI.  We pay the salesperson a commission and
> the installer is paid by the job.  Thus, the install fee and first month
> service covers it all including the price of the radio/antenna.  After that,
> the monthly charge comes with not much effort unless the customer turns out
> to be high maintenance and with that, we just start charging for service
> calls and computer repairs.
>
> Just because one charges a small monthly fee doesn’t mean you can’t have add
> on services, higher tiers or other profit areas.
>
> But even with that, we've had the "cheap skate" discussion before....  some
> people will go with the 15 buck slow service no matter what.  Let em'.  You
> deal with that type of offer with quality, service and educating your
> market.  The worst thing you could do, in my opinion, is to try to join in
> their game.  It only associates their low quality standards with you.  Apple
> computers doesn’t sell $298 laptops for a reason.
>
> Bob-
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of RickG
> Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 3:29 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] how to compete with $15 DSL
>
> Sure but I'm more curious about the business model for making money at
> such low prices. UBNT is priced right and certainly helps but it would
> still be tough to make a profit at only $24.95/month. I havent seen
> one a financial discusion on the list in a very long time. I though
> market share models died a long time ago. Are people still out there
> losing money in the short term in order to make money on the long
> term?
>
> On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 2:39 PM, Mike Hammett <wispawirel...@ics-il.net>
> wrote:
>> Mikrotik, StarOS, or UBNT could all deliver those speeds.
>>
>>
>> -----
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>
>>
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "RickG" <rgunder...@gmail.com>
>> Sent: Monday, March 22, 2010 8:19 PM
>> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] how to compete with $15 DSL
>>
>>> If so, with what equipment?
>>>
>>> On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 1:35 PM, Marco Coelho <coelh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Are you delivering that wireless?
>>>>
>>>> mc
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 9:08 PM, Jayson Baker <jay...@spectrasurf.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> That's what we did.  $24.95/mo gets you 12Mbps/6Mbps.  $49.95/mo gets
>>>>> you
>>>>> 20Mbps/6Mbps.
>>>>> We guarantee minimums--not just an "up to" speed.  A lot of people
>>>>> really
>>>>> like that too.
>>>>> Our packages: www.peakinter.net
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 11:14 PM, MDK <rea...@muddyfrogwater.us> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> One of the things you have to keep in mind, is that you really do have
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> offer your customers a decent value for their dollars.    35 Bux for a
>>>>>> fraction of a meg is darn steep pricing these days.   We offer a 300K
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> 25
>>>>>> and 2 meg for 38.50, which is reasonably competitive.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You don't' need to be the cheapest to be "competitive", but you can't
>>>>>> be
>>>>>> way
>>>>>> outside of normal pricing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm thinking of throwing up some MIMO gear and offering something like
>>>>>> a 7
>>>>>> meg service.    Was thinking of making it about 75 / mo.    Not the
>>>>>> cheapest.   Not the most expensive, either.     What would 7 meg be in
>>>>>> your
>>>>>> area?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>>> Neofast, Inc, Making internet easy
>>>>>> 541-969-8200  509-386-4589
>>>>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>>>> From: "Kurt Fankhauser" <k...@wavelinc.com>
>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2010 8:05 AM
>>>>>> To: "'WISPA General List'" <wireless@wispa.org>
>>>>>> Subject: [WISPA] how to compete with $15 DSL
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > Local phone company here just expanded their DSL coverage area and
>>>>>> > mailed
>>>>>> > out fliers to everyone for $15 DSL. I see no mention of it being a
>>>>>> > promotional price. One person said as long as you have it they will
>>>>>> > not
>>>>>> > raise the rate from $15. Think its for 768k service. Anyways we are
>>>>>> > getting
>>>>>> > about 1 person a day switching from our $35/month/768k wireless
>>>>>> > service
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> > this DSL. Does anyone have any suggestions as to how to retain these
>>>>>> > customers???? They are not even giving us a chance to offer them a
>>>>>> > lower
>>>>>> > price as they all already have the DSL turned on and been using it
>>>>>> > for a
>>>>>> > month before they cancel ours.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Kurt Fankhauser
>>>>>> > WAVELINC
>>>>>> > P.O. Box 126
>>>>>> > Bucyrus, OH 44820
>>>>>> > 419-562-6405
>>>>>> > www.wavelinc.com
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
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