But what is your ARPU? On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 12:02 AM, Travis Johnson <t...@ida.net> wrote: > Hi, > > I have packages starting at $29.95/month and I'm quite profitable... > have been for over 12 years now... :) > > Travis > Microserv > > RickG wrote: >> Bob, >> >> We do the same here. Day one ROI upon installation. Not having any >> problems getting customers, In fact, we're growing faster than we >> ever have. Of course, there is a lot more to the cost of operating >> than just ROI upon install. Our lowest plan is $49.99/month. Which is >> the reason I responded to Jayson's post: >> >> Jayson Baker <jay...@spectrasurf.com> wrote: >> "$24.95/mo gets you 12Mbps/6Mbps. $49.95/mo gets you 20Mbps/6Mbps. We >> guarantee minimums--not just an "up to" speed" >> >> I'm always game to learn something. Every business model I've ever >> done only shows profit at $50/month ARPU. I'm just wondering if & >> where I'm going wrong. >> -RickG >> >> On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 6:34 PM, Robert West <robert.w...@just-micro.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Using UBNT, we have a zero day ROI. We pay the salesperson a commission and >>> the installer is paid by the job. Thus, the install fee and first month >>> service covers it all including the price of the radio/antenna. After that, >>> the monthly charge comes with not much effort unless the customer turns out >>> to be high maintenance and with that, we just start charging for service >>> calls and computer repairs. >>> >>> Just because one charges a small monthly fee doesn’t mean you can’t have add >>> on services, higher tiers or other profit areas. >>> >>> But even with that, we've had the "cheap skate" discussion before.... some >>> people will go with the 15 buck slow service no matter what. Let em'. You >>> deal with that type of offer with quality, service and educating your >>> market. The worst thing you could do, in my opinion, is to try to join in >>> their game. It only associates their low quality standards with you. Apple >>> computers doesn’t sell $298 laptops for a reason. >>> >>> Bob- >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >>> Behalf Of RickG >>> Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 3:29 PM >>> To: WISPA General List >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] how to compete with $15 DSL >>> >>> Sure but I'm more curious about the business model for making money at >>> such low prices. UBNT is priced right and certainly helps but it would >>> still be tough to make a profit at only $24.95/month. I havent seen >>> one a financial discusion on the list in a very long time. I though >>> market share models died a long time ago. Are people still out there >>> losing money in the short term in order to make money on the long >>> term? >>> >>> On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 2:39 PM, Mike Hammett <wispawirel...@ics-il.net> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Mikrotik, StarOS, or UBNT could all deliver those speeds. >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- >>>> Mike Hammett >>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions >>>> http://www.ics-il.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -------------------------------------------------- >>>> From: "RickG" <rgunder...@gmail.com> >>>> Sent: Monday, March 22, 2010 8:19 PM >>>> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> >>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] how to compete with $15 DSL >>>> >>>> >>>>> If so, with what equipment? >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 1:35 PM, Marco Coelho <coelh...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Are you delivering that wireless? >>>>>> >>>>>> mc >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 9:08 PM, Jayson Baker <jay...@spectrasurf.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> That's what we did. $24.95/mo gets you 12Mbps/6Mbps. $49.95/mo gets >>>>>>> you >>>>>>> 20Mbps/6Mbps. >>>>>>> We guarantee minimums--not just an "up to" speed. A lot of people >>>>>>> really >>>>>>> like that too. >>>>>>> Our packages: www.peakinter.net >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 11:14 PM, MDK <rea...@muddyfrogwater.us> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> One of the things you have to keep in mind, is that you really do have >>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>> offer your customers a decent value for their dollars. 35 Bux for a >>>>>>>> fraction of a meg is darn steep pricing these days. We offer a 300K >>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>> 25 >>>>>>>> and 2 meg for 38.50, which is reasonably competitive. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You don't' need to be the cheapest to be "competitive", but you can't >>>>>>>> be >>>>>>>> way >>>>>>>> outside of normal pricing. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I'm thinking of throwing up some MIMO gear and offering something like >>>>>>>> a 7 >>>>>>>> meg service. Was thinking of making it about 75 / mo. Not the >>>>>>>> cheapest. Not the most expensive, either. What would 7 meg be in >>>>>>>> your >>>>>>>> area? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >>>>>>>> Neofast, Inc, Making internet easy >>>>>>>> 541-969-8200 509-386-4589 >>>>>>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>> From: "Kurt Fankhauser" <k...@wavelinc.com> >>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2010 8:05 AM >>>>>>>> To: "'WISPA General List'" <wireless@wispa.org> >>>>>>>> Subject: [WISPA] how to compete with $15 DSL >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Local phone company here just expanded their DSL coverage area and >>>>>>>>> mailed >>>>>>>>> out fliers to everyone for $15 DSL. I see no mention of it being a >>>>>>>>> promotional price. One person said as long as you have it they will >>>>>>>>> not >>>>>>>>> raise the rate from $15. Think its for 768k service. Anyways we are >>>>>>>>> getting >>>>>>>>> about 1 person a day switching from our $35/month/768k wireless >>>>>>>>> service >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> this DSL. Does anyone have any suggestions as to how to retain these >>>>>>>>> customers???? They are not even giving us a chance to offer them a >>>>>>>>> lower >>>>>>>>> price as they all already have the DSL turned on and been using it >>>>>>>>> for a >>>>>>>>> month before they cancel ours. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Kurt Fankhauser >>>>>>>>> WAVELINC >>>>>>>>> P.O. Box 126 >>>>>>>>> Bucyrus, OH 44820 >>>>>>>>> 419-562-6405 >>>>>>>>> www.wavelinc.com >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> ---- >>> >>>>>>>>> WISPA Wants You! 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