You can almost always get the "new" pricing, if you want to sign a new 
contract for the same as your existing one. I have done that at least 20 
times with Qwest on PRI and T1 lines for customers.

The original poster just said "they won't give me the new pricing". 
Sometimes you have to work at it, but as you said, most of the time they 
are willing to do it if the new contract total value is more than the 
existing contract value.

Travis
Microserv


On 9/1/2010 6:13 PM, Tom DeReggi wrote:
> Not so fast... Sure, if the other party wont let you out of a contract, the
> ethical thing to do is honor it.
> BUT... its not unethical for the two parties involved to mutually agree to
> change an agreement for mutual benefit. Most contracts specifically allow
> that.
> There are many reasons a party might want to let the other party out of a
> contract term or renegotiate it.
>
> A vendor does not benefit if a Buyer goes out of business.
> A Vendor does not benefit if a Buyer is locked in for another year at a high
> rate, if that rate forces the buyer to signup with another provider at a
> lower rate for the rest of enternity.
> Its called "customer retention".  When the market changes sometime contracts
> need to adapt with the new market conditions.
> One must also ask what it might cost to inforce a contract, and sometimes
> taht is more than the revenue that would be discounted by keeping the
> custoemr happy and retained long term and paying on time.
>
> I'm not going to mention any names, but at ISPCON, someone I considered a
> mentor spoke at a session, and what he learned was.... So what if there is a
> contract... Hold out, and convince your vendors why they should work with
> you on price. While under contract, he was able to get most vendors to lower
> prices, for mutual benefit.
>
> Admittedly, ATT is not like a company that would easily budge on contract
> terms, expecially in an underserved area where they are a near monopoly, but
> it doesn't mean that they wont.
>
> Tom DeReggi
> RapidDSL&  Wireless, Inc
> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Travis Johnson"<t...@ida.net>
> To: "WISPA General List"<wireless@wispa.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 7:07 PM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Providers
>
>
>>   So what you are saying is that YOU shouldn't have to uphold YOUR end
>> of the contract? How does that make sense?
>>
>> Travis
>> Microserv
>>
>>
>> On 9/1/2010 1:41 PM, Eric Rogers wrote:
>>> I am looking for multiple connections to the internet.  We currently
>>> have AT&T Fiber and IPs.  We want to look at redundancy in terms of
>>> becoming a BGP peer, and purchasing our own IP addresses.  The ONLY
>>> other provider in our area is Comcast.  Has anyone worked with them to
>>> do any BGP peering?
>>>
>>> What really rocked my boat was that I am seeing new ISPs signing up with
>>> AT&T Opt-E-Man with 100 MB circuits for $2600/mo.  That is less than
>>> what I am paying for my 50 MB circuit.  I called my sales rep and they
>>> stated that I could get a 100 MB circuit for $4200/mo and because I am
>>> under contract for another year, there is nothing they can do for
>>> price...so pretty much they are saying to me that they want new
>>> customers, and anyone under contract they can gouge as long as I am
>>> under contract...
>>>
>>> When can we get rid of these monopolies?!?!?
>>>
>>> Eric Rogers
>>> Precision Data Solutions, LLC
>>> (317) 831-3000 x200
>>>
>>>
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