Sounds like you've bent over backwards to this point. I'd now send a letter
to all your tower owners outlining what you've done to be cooperative, list
the applicable CFR references and go tell him to take a flying leap, but
that is just me. We had a competitor (actually a customer who thought it
looked simple) come in and try to "mess" with us. He spent so much time
trying to strong arm our tower owners, kill our signal, take down our
advertising, and bad mouth us, that he neglected the handful of customers he
had. He lasted a little less than a year and we ended up with all his
customers. This is one of the reasons I'm glad to be on another side of this
industry now.

Regards,

Cameron

On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 1:16 PM, Jerry Richardson
<jrichard...@aircloud.com>wrote:

> Here is my take:
>
> Old boy was there first
>
> New boy rolls in on a sweet deal for tower owner
>
> Old boy's network is hosed due to interference from new boy
>
>
>
> Sound like new boy is the problem regardless of how old boy's network is
> built (it worked before new boy came along). I'm guessing no spectrum
> analysis was done in advance or new boy would have seen it was a no go. New
> boy needs to look at using a different band or buy out old boy.
>
>
>
> I would HIGHLY recommend new boy bail on 2.4, and use 5.8 UBNT Rockets with
> Sectors. He will be able to provide a higher class of service and be
> installing what he should have installed in the first place. New boy should
> include in the tower agreement language for exclusivity on 3.65, 5.2, 5.4,
> and whatever unused channels there are on 5.8.
>
>
>
> - Jerry
>
>
>
> *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
> Behalf Of *Robert West
> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 29, 2010 11:01 AM
>
> *To:* 'WISPA General List'
> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Can't make a competitor happy.
>
>
>
> Problem is old boy doesn’t want to change a thing, he seems to think he’s
> king of the roost since he was first in.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
> Behalf Of *Chuck Hogg
> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 29, 2010 11:22 AM
> *To:* WISPA General List
> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Can't make a competitor happy.
>
>
>
> Have everyone use Canopy, sync the aps together, and problems go away.  Or
> wait for UBNT AirSync.
> Regards,
>
> Chuck
>
> On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 9:55 AM, Robert West <robert.w...@just-micro.com>
> wrote:
>
> I’m throwing this out there for another WISP to see if anyone has any
> experience with something like this or any ideas.
>
>
>
> Within the past year this operator was asked by a grain operator to bring
> broadband to all of their grain legs.  The operator had the idea of, instead
> of charging the grain dealer for the install, to offer the broadband for
> free in exchange for using the legs for access points and sell the service
> to local customers.  The grain dealer agreed, obviously, so he built out a
> fairly good sized network.  For equipment he is using all Ubiquiti radios
> and CPE units and with Pac grids and Bullets for his back haul and Rockets
> with sectors at the APs.  Network has been working perfectly.
>
>
>
> That’s the setup.  Now for the trouble.
>
>
>
> There was and still is an existing WISP in the area.  60 customers or so.
> (Grain dealer is associated with OLD wisp in a roundabout way but chose not
> to use him for whatever reason)  It’s reported that boy is in love with
> Bullets and OMNI antennas on all of his APs.  For CPEs he goes for large
> grids and Bullets, I believe.  He also pushes it as far as he can go, 5
> miles or more on those OMNI APs.  New operator is using 5.8 for Back Haul,
> 2.4 for CPE.  Old WISP calls new WISP almost immediately.  Interference
> taking down his network.  New wisp changes channels to those suggested by
> old wisp.  Calls again, interference.  New wisp changes channels again.
> Another phone call, he changes yet again.  Then drops down to 10MHz channels
> to give more room.  Still the phone calls.  For a time it was every evening
> he would have to deal with old wisp and still he wouldn’t be happy.  Old
> wisp then starts calling the owners of the grain legs raising hell and bad
> mouthing new wisp.  Leg owner calls new wisp, “What’s Up?”  Old wisp then
> wants to sell his network to new wisp for fantasy cash.  I tell new wisp,
> “Chill, don’t even think of buying that idiot and his duct tape network”.
> New wisp then buys a 3.65 license but we all know how long that sucker takes
> and the limitations it has with number of channels and the $$ premium per
> unit.  New wisp has been very nice to all parties and has done, from what I
> see, about all he can do.  He’s within all power regulations and has bent
> over backwards to every request put to him by this guy.  (One of the last
> comments from old WISP was that he would get a sector and, in so many words,
> blast him and take down his network)
>
>
>
> Now the latest.  Old wisp has contacted the leg owners and has put together
> a meeting between old wisp, all of new wisps grain leg owners, new wisp and
> two outside parties, one of which is related to old wisp boy.
>
>
>
> New Wisp is at a loss to what more can be accomplished other than old wisp
> upgrade his OMNIs to sectors in order to isolate the RF away from a
> competing channel.
>
>
>
> Anyone have any solid resolutions that he can throw out to old wisp boy ?
> Surely someone here has been there before.
>
>
>
> Thanks!
>
>
>
> Robert West
>
> Just Micro Digital Services Inc.
>
> 740-335-7020
>
>
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