Not sure how 'old boy's' (OB) crappy network design is 'new boy's' (NB)
problem. Unlicensed spectrum is just that, unlicensed, if he wants
protection he should have bought spectrum.
As long as NB is following part15 rules and not maliciously trying to
interfere with OB's network then OB has to accept interference from NB's
network, just as NB has to accept interference from OB's network.
It seems that NB has tried to get along, it is about time OB started
taking some responsibility for his network.
I don't get to tell everyone that bought a wireless router in town to
take them back because they interfere with my WISP.
Sam Tetherow
Sandhills Wireless
On 12/29/10 1:16 PM, Jerry Richardson wrote:
Here is my take:
Old boy was there first
New boy rolls in on a sweet deal for tower owner
Old boy's network is hosed due to interference from new boy
Sound like new boy is the problem regardless of how old boy's network
is built (it worked before new boy came along). I'm guessing no
spectrum analysis was done in advance or new boy would have seen it
was a no go. New boy needs to look at using a different band or buy
out old boy.
I would HIGHLY recommend new boy bail on 2.4, and use 5.8 UBNT Rockets
with Sectors. He will be able to provide a higher class of service and
be installing what he should have installed in the first place. New
boy should include in the tower agreement language for exclusivity on
3.65, 5.2, 5.4, and whatever unused channels there are on 5.8.
- Jerry
*From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
*On Behalf Of *Robert West
*Sent:* Wednesday, December 29, 2010 11:01 AM
*To:* 'WISPA General List'
*Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Can't make a competitor happy.
Problem is old boy doesn't want to change a thing, he seems to think
he's king of the roost since he was first in.
*From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
*On Behalf Of *Chuck Hogg
*Sent:* Wednesday, December 29, 2010 11:22 AM
*To:* WISPA General List
*Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Can't make a competitor happy.
Have everyone use Canopy, sync the aps together, and problems go away.
Or wait for UBNT AirSync.
Regards,
Chuck
On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 9:55 AM, Robert West
<robert.w...@just-micro.com <mailto:robert.w...@just-micro.com>> wrote:
I'm throwing this out there for another WISP to see if anyone has any
experience with something like this or any ideas.
Within the past year this operator was asked by a grain operator to
bring broadband to all of their grain legs. The operator had the idea
of, instead of charging the grain dealer for the install, to offer the
broadband for free in exchange for using the legs for access points
and sell the service to local customers. The grain dealer agreed,
obviously, so he built out a fairly good sized network. For equipment
he is using all Ubiquiti radios and CPE units and with Pac grids and
Bullets for his back haul and Rockets with sectors at the APs.
Network has been working perfectly.
That's the setup. Now for the trouble.
There was and still is an existing WISP in the area. 60 customers or
so. (Grain dealer is associated with OLD wisp in a roundabout way but
chose not to use him for whatever reason) It's reported that boy is
in love with Bullets and OMNI antennas on all of his APs. For CPEs he
goes for large grids and Bullets, I believe. He also pushes it as far
as he can go, 5 miles or more on those OMNI APs. New operator is
using 5.8 for Back Haul, 2.4 for CPE. Old WISP calls new WISP almost
immediately. Interference taking down his network. New wisp changes
channels to those suggested by old wisp. Calls again, interference.
New wisp changes channels again. Another phone call, he changes yet
again. Then drops down to 10MHz channels to give more room. Still
the phone calls. For a time it was every evening he would have to
deal with old wisp and still he wouldn't be happy. Old wisp then
starts calling the owners of the grain legs raising hell and bad
mouthing new wisp. Leg owner calls new wisp, "What's Up?" Old wisp
then wants to sell his network to new wisp for fantasy cash. I tell
new wisp, "Chill, don't even think of buying that idiot and his duct
tape network". New wisp then buys a 3.65 license but we all know how
long that sucker takes and the limitations it has with number of
channels and the $$ premium per unit. New wisp has been very nice to
all parties and has done, from what I see, about all he can do. He's
within all power regulations and has bent over backwards to every
request put to him by this guy. (One of the last comments from old
WISP was that he would get a sector and, in so many words, blast him
and take down his network)
Now the latest. Old wisp has contacted the leg owners and has put
together a meeting between old wisp, all of new wisps grain leg
owners, new wisp and two outside parties, one of which is related to
old wisp boy.
New Wisp is at a loss to what more can be accomplished other than old
wisp upgrade his OMNIs to sectors in order to isolate the RF away from
a competing channel.
Anyone have any solid resolutions that he can throw out to old wisp
boy ? Surely someone here has been there before.
Thanks!
Robert West
Just Micro Digital Services Inc.
740-335-7020
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