>From what I can tell, it's AFMUG with the ability to talk about reflectors
and anything negative (problems, not mindless bashing) about stingers.

WISPA has their rules.  I understand and agree with them.  But this list
isn't going to lose any money or confidence if someone throws business cards
into a fire...

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 1:11 PM, Charles N Wyble
<char...@knownelement.com>wrote:

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> Um.... people bash WISPA on this list occasionally. It's usually not
> warranted. There are a few trolls that like to make trouble. Why do you
> feel that we can't bash WISPA on this list? If there are legitimate
> concerns with the organization, and one feels they are a threat to the
> industry, then voice them.
>
> Also going on a list and complaining usually doesn't get anything done.
> It just wastes peoples time and bandwidth. If someone has constructive
> criticism, and a well reasoned argument/position, that will get
> something done.
>
> I've subscribed to the WUG list. Hopefully it will be interesting and
> not a waste of time, however I will probably start various new threads
> on the WISPA list, as it has served my and many others needs quite well.
> I've been on the list since 2008 and been very happy with it. Numerous
> products/services/organizations have been praised when necessary, and
> called out when necessary. So I'm not quite sure the purpose of the WUG
> list.
>
> We will see what the WUG list does. My initial feelings, is that it will
> be a fringe list that ends up doing a lot of harm to the industry.
> Journalists will see lots of trolling and pick that out as the face of
> the industry, because it makes better material for the sensationalist
> media.
>
> I realize that as business owners, we have very strong opinions and
> value our independence and rights. However we must also keep in mind
> that we as an industry are under attack on a continuous basis. WISPA has
> provided a focal point for us to coalesce around as an industry. They
> have continuously shown a deep understanding of how to keep the industry
> growing. They have produced a number of products (3.65 regs,
> whitespaces, dfrs etc.) These end products take substantial amounts of
> time and effort to produce. They have seen how the sausage is made, and
> not been afraid to get their hands dirty.
>
> I hope to join WISPA in the near future and contribute my support. I've
> been slowly ramping up my WISP and preparing to roll out a broad beta.
>
> I should get back to that now, have a demo due by the end of the week....
>
> On 01/24/2011 09:29 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
> > To be entirely neutral.  We can't bash WISPA if we wanted to, for
> example.
> > We can't bash a company that is affiliated with WISPA.  Probably not the
> > best example, but this way we are entirely free to do what we want.
> >
> > Josh Luthman
> > Office: 937-552-2340
> > Direct: 937-552-2343
> > 1100 Wayne St
> > Suite 1337
> > Troy, OH 45373
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 12:26 PM, Steve Barnes <st...@pcswin.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Not sure of the reason for this Post here.  Isn't the
> wireless@wispa.org a
> >> free non-vendor specific list?  Is this a post to pull users from WISPA?
> >>
> >> Steve Barnes
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> >> Behalf Of Travis Johnson
> >> Sent: Monday, January 24, 2011 11:36 AM
> >> To: WISPA General List
> >> Subject: [WISPA] new list
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> In an effort to create a neutral discussion forum, a new mailing list
> has
> >> been created called Wireless Users Group. This list is 100% free, and is
> not
> >> tied to any product or service being sold. It is hosted on a free
> server,
> >> with free bandwidth and free administration. No fees or vendor
> sponsorship
> >> will ever be asked by this new list.
> >>
> >> To subscribe to this new list, send an email to users-request@wug.ccwith
> >> "subscribe" in the subject field.
> >>
> >> We support many of the wireless pioneers in this industry such as
> Motorola,
> >> Wireless Beehive, and WISPA. We would just prefer a vendor neutral list
> that
> >> allows discussion of any product (whether good or bad) so that we can
> all
> >> learn.
> >>
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> >> Wireless Users Group us...@wug.cc
> >>
> >>
> >>
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