I have never involved myself with AFMUG, but it sounds kind of like the 
Mikrotik forum, only without the Communist excuse.  ;-)

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Mike Hammett
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On 1/24/2011 12:18 PM, support wrote:
> I don't see the list as a replacement but 1 more good tool in the tool box
> think its more to replace AFMUG we are all getting sick of chuck getting
> angry
>
>
>
> On 1/24/2011 12:11 PM, Charles N Wyble wrote:
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>> Um.... people bash WISPA on this list occasionally. It's usually not
>> warranted. There are a few trolls that like to make trouble. Why do you
>> feel that we can't bash WISPA on this list? If there are legitimate
>> concerns with the organization, and one feels they are a threat to the
>> industry, then voice them.
>>
>> Also going on a list and complaining usually doesn't get anything done.
>> It just wastes peoples time and bandwidth. If someone has constructive
>> criticism, and a well reasoned argument/position, that will get
>> something done.
>>
>> I've subscribed to the WUG list. Hopefully it will be interesting and
>> not a waste of time, however I will probably start various new threads
>> on the WISPA list, as it has served my and many others needs quite well.
>> I've been on the list since 2008 and been very happy with it. Numerous
>> products/services/organizations have been praised when necessary, and
>> called out when necessary. So I'm not quite sure the purpose of the WUG
>> list.
>>
>> We will see what the WUG list does. My initial feelings, is that it will
>> be a fringe list that ends up doing a lot of harm to the industry.
>> Journalists will see lots of trolling and pick that out as the face of
>> the industry, because it makes better material for the sensationalist
>> media.
>>
>> I realize that as business owners, we have very strong opinions and
>> value our independence and rights. However we must also keep in mind
>> that we as an industry are under attack on a continuous basis. WISPA has
>> provided a focal point for us to coalesce around as an industry. They
>> have continuously shown a deep understanding of how to keep the industry
>> growing. They have produced a number of products (3.65 regs,
>> whitespaces, dfrs etc.) These end products take substantial amounts of
>> time and effort to produce. They have seen how the sausage is made, and
>> not been afraid to get their hands dirty.
>>
>> I hope to join WISPA in the near future and contribute my support. I've
>> been slowly ramping up my WISP and preparing to roll out a broad beta.
>>
>> I should get back to that now, have a demo due by the end of the week....
>>
>> On 01/24/2011 09:29 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>>> To be entirely neutral.  We can't bash WISPA if we wanted to, for example.
>>> We can't bash a company that is affiliated with WISPA.  Probably not the
>>> best example, but this way we are entirely free to do what we want.
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 12:26 PM, Steve Barnes<st...@pcswin.com>   wrote:
>>>
>>>> Not sure of the reason for this Post here.  Isn't the wireless@wispa.org a
>>>> free non-vendor specific list?  Is this a post to pull users from WISPA?
>>>>
>>>> Steve Barnes
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>>>> Behalf Of Travis Johnson
>>>> Sent: Monday, January 24, 2011 11:36 AM
>>>> To: WISPA General List
>>>> Subject: [WISPA] new list
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> In an effort to create a neutral discussion forum, a new mailing list has
>>>> been created called Wireless Users Group. This list is 100% free, and is 
>>>> not
>>>> tied to any product or service being sold. It is hosted on a free server,
>>>> with free bandwidth and free administration. No fees or vendor sponsorship
>>>> will ever be asked by this new list.
>>>>
>>>> To subscribe to this new list, send an email to users-requ...@wug.cc with
>>>> "subscribe" in the subject field.
>>>>
>>>> We support many of the wireless pioneers in this industry such as Motorola,
>>>> Wireless Beehive, and WISPA. We would just prefer a vendor neutral list 
>>>> that
>>>> allows discussion of any product (whether good or bad) so that we can all
>>>> learn.
>>>>
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