Hey me too I was 17 in 1975 :)

On 1/26/2011 7:15 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:

Hey we're the same age!  I was 17 in 2005!

On Jan 26, 2011 9:59 AM, "Mike Hammett" <wispawirel...@ics-il.net <mailto:wispawirel...@ics-il.net>> wrote:
> 18? Damn, he beat me then. I was only 22. :-p
>
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> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
>
>
> On 1/26/2011 8:24 AM, Rick Harnish wrote:
>>
>> Kurt was one of our first members signing up at WISPNOG in Chicago in
>> 2005. He was 18 at the time I think. He took a few years off and
>> came back last summer joining at the Summer Regional Meeting. It is
>> good to have you back! You have been an impressive young entrepreneur
>> to watch. I think you won a pretty nice door prize at the St. Louis
>> Meeting didn't you?
>>
>> Rick
>>
>> *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org <mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org> [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org <mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org>]
>> *On Behalf Of *Kurt Fankhauser
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 26, 2011 9:16 AM
>> *To:* 'WISPA General List'
>> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] WISPA DUES - (was: new list)
>>
>> Rick, I look forward to paying my WISPA dues this summer, it is one
>> investment I know that will have a much higher ROI than anything else.
>>
>> Kurt Fankhauser
>>
>> Wavelinc Communications
>>
>> P.O. Box 126
>>
>> Bucyrus, OH 44820
>>
>> http://www.wavelinc.com
>>
>> 419-562-6405
>>
>> Sent from Microsoft Outlook
>>
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>> *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org <mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org> [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org <mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org>]
>> *On Behalf Of *Rick Harnish
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 26, 2011 9:09 AM
>> *To:* 'WISPA General List'
>> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] WISPA DUES - (was: new list)
>>
>> Kurt,
>>
>> You are exactly right. Working inside the Beltway is very expensive.
>> Office Rent, Malpractice insurance, hotels, food and just about
>> everything else is twice what it is in the common world. However, to
>> be clued in and in touch with the daily events that happen at the FCC
>> and Congress, it is almost essential that we maintain a presence there
>> through our attorney. Many associations have their corporate offices
>> in the DC Metro Area. We are a long ways from doing that and we
>> maintain our virtual offices across the country at Board Member
>> offices and my little rented office in Indiana. We are appreciative
>> of all the supplies, electricity, insurance and other expenses
>> incurred by those that serve on the Board, so that we can maintain low
>> overhead and dedicate the major portion of our revenue to go to
>> lobbying type efforts.
>>
>> For those of you that are wondering. Our legal expenses last year
>> were almost $100,000.
>>
>> I appreciate your kind words and we will continue to work for the
>> industry. Hopefully others will join the members in supporting our
>> efforts.
>>
>> Respectfully,
>>
>> *Rick Harnish*
>>
>> Executive Director
>>
>> WISPA
>>
>> 260-307-4000 cell
>>
>> 866-317-2851 WISPA Office
>>
>> Skype: rick.harnish.
>>
>> rharn...@wispa.org <mailto:rharn...@wispa.org>
>>
>> *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org <mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org> [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org <mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org>]
>> *On Behalf Of *Kurt Fankhauser
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 26, 2011 8:11 AM
>> *To:* 'WISPA General List'
>> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] WISPA DUES - (was: new list)
>>
>> Rick,
>>
>> I just seen the total expenses sheet, and all I have to say is WOW. I
>> had no idea that there was as much legal fees associated with running
>> WISPA. Lets face it, these annual member fees are CHEAP CHEAP CHEAP
>> compared to the overall cost of running WISPA. And right now pretty
>> much everyone that is a WISP (paying member of WISPA or not) is
>> getting benefit from this organization from the lobbying efforts and
>> FCC agenda. I encourage anyone that is not a current member to sign
>> up. I know that there are a TON of wisps out there that are not
>> members. I would estimate that possibly only 25-50% of all total WISPS
>> are members.
>>
>> The WISPS that are not current members should be ashamed of themselves
>> because of all that they are benefitting from at the expense of the
>> rest of us....
>>
>> Kurt Fankhauser
>>
>> Wavelinc Communications
>>
>> P.O. Box 126
>>
>> Bucyrus, OH 44820
>>
>> http://www.wavelinc.com
>>
>> 419-562-6405
>>
>> Sent from Microsoft Outlook
>>
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>>
>> *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org <mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org> [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org <mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org>]
>> *On Behalf Of *Rick Harnish
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 25, 2011 6:57 PM
>> *To:* 'WISPA General List'
>> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] new list
>>
>> Kurt,
>>
>> We will take this to the members list. I have a couple hours of work
>> to get the P&L ready.
>>
>> Rick
>>
>> *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org <mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org> [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org <mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org>]
>> *On Behalf Of *Kurt Fankhauser
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 25, 2011 6:21 PM
>> *To:* 'WISPA General List'
>> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] new list
>>
>> Rick,
>>
>> What does WISPA take in total for a years time and where is all this
>> money going?
>>
>> Kurt Fankhauser
>>
>> Wavelinc Communications
>>
>> http://www.wavelinc.com
>>
>> P.O. Box 126
>>
>> Bucyrus, OH 44820
>>
>> 419-562-6405
>>
>> Sent from Microsoft Outlook
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org <mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org> [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org <mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org>]
>> *On Behalf Of *Rick Harnish
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 25, 2011 11:29 AM
>> *To:* bo...@burrow.com <mailto:bo...@burrow.com>; 'WISPA General List'
>> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] new list
>>
>> It isn't about bashing WISPA in my view. It is providing input so
>> that the WISPA Board can make the appropriate decisions that are
>> representative of the majority of operators. The Board is made up of
>> operators just like the rest of you and they are human, they make
>> mistakes and they don't always have the funding or impact to get
>> everything they want in regards to FCC policy. Any Board member will
>> tell you that criticism is the name of the game. If you can't take
>> it, you don't run the next year.
>>
>> Sure I wish we could be right all the time and never receive any
>> criticism, but that will never happen. We pledge to do the best we
>> can do. Understand that the Board is still a volunteer position and
>> they do have a business to run as well. That is why they hired me to
>> run the day to day affairs and stimulate the membership totals. Below
>> is a graphic of WISPA revenues since March 2008. I started on August
>> 1^st , 2010. You can see that typically, we have a revenue spike with
>> every tradeshow that we do as our membership grows.
>>
>> January 2011 numbers are not complete yet but in general, we seem to
>> be progressing nicely. The large spike was the Summer Regional Show
>> in St. Louis. Obviously there were rather large offsetting costs but
>> it was a profitable show for us.
>>
>> Respectively,
>>
>> *Rick Harnish*
>>
>> Executive Director
>>
>> WISPA
>>
>> 260-307-4000 cell
>>
>> 866-317-2851 WISPA Office
>>
>> Skype: rick.harnish.
>>
>> rharn...@wispa.org <mailto:rharn...@wispa.org>
>>
>> *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org <mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org> [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org <mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org>]
>> *On Behalf Of *Bobby Burrow
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 25, 2011 10:30 AM
>> *To:* 'WISPA General List'
>> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] new list
>>
>> This is disappointing. IF you read the Mission Statement and Goals of
>> WISPA, you would understand that this forum is not the place to vent
>> or air ill feelings. We are supposed to be a community of peers that
>> can look to each other for support and encouragement as we pursue of
>> business goals.
>>
>> Freedom of speech in these public forums is not intended to be the
>> freedom to complain or bash each other, let alone the organization
>> that provides the service. I would suggest that those that feel that
>> need should find another venue so the rest can continue on per the
>> goals and mission as defined.
>>
>> Bobby Burrow
>>
>> WISPA Supporter
>>
>> *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org <mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org> [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org <mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org>]
>> *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
>> *Sent:* Monday, January 24, 2011 11:30 AM
>> *To:* WISPA General List
>> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] new list
>>
>> To be entirely neutral. We can't bash WISPA if we wanted to, for
>> example. We can't bash a company that is affiliated with WISPA.
>> Probably not the best example, but this way we are entirely free to do
>> what we want.
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 12:26 PM, Steve Barnes <st...@pcswin.com <mailto:st...@pcswin.com>
>> <mailto:st...@pcswin.com <mailto:st...@pcswin.com>>> wrote:
>>
>> Not sure of the reason for this Post here. Isn't the
>> wireless@wispa.org <mailto:wireless@wispa.org> <mailto:wireless@wispa.org <mailto:wireless@wispa.org>> a free non-vendor
>> specific list? Is this a post to pull users from WISPA?
>>
>> Steve Barnes
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org <mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org> <mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org <mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org>>
>> [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org <mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org>
>> <mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org <mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org>>] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson
>> Sent: Monday, January 24, 2011 11:36 AM
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: [WISPA] new list
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> In an effort to create a neutral discussion forum, a new mailing list
>> has been created called Wireless Users Group. This list is 100% free,
>> and is not tied to any product or service being sold. It is hosted on
>> a free server, with free bandwidth and free administration. No fees or
>> vendor sponsorship will ever be asked by this new list.
>>
>> To subscribe to this new list, send an email to users-requ...@wug.cc
>> with "subscribe" in the subject field.
>>
>> We support many of the wireless pioneers in this industry such as
>> Motorola, Wireless Beehive, and WISPA. We would just prefer a vendor
>> neutral list that allows discussion of any product (whether good or
>> bad) so that we can all learn.
>>
>> __________________________________
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