So what is the solution if you have 1000+ WiFi routers that don't support
IPv6? Pretty penny to replace.

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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Tom DeReggi
Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2011 12:05 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Internet Runs Out Of IP Addresses

There was a requirement to use with IP allocation. (would need more within 3

months, if not allocated, or something like that).

There is a legal basis to make IP holders return IPs that they are not 
using, or will not use within X months.
Selling it on the secondary market is not the intent of the ARIN original 
rules, regardless of what recent decissions ARIN may have made..


Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


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From: "Mike Hammett" <wispawirel...@ics-il.net>
To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 11:57 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Internet Runs Out Of IP Addresses


> Probably not directed towards ISPs, but to other organizations.
>
> http://fixedorbit.com/stats.htm
>
> http://www.iana.org/assignments/ipv4-address-space/ipv4-address-space.xml
>
>
> GE probably doesn't need 16M+ IPs.
> HP probably doesn't need 33M+ IPs.
> Ford probably doesn't need 16M+ IPs..
>
> -----
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
>
>
> On 2/7/2011 10:34 AM, Matt wrote:
>>> No, it's not a real problem.  I liken it to the exhaust of homesteads in

>>> the
>>> past century.  You used to be able to go to a land office and ask for 
>>> your
>>> 40 acres.  Then they ran out.  But you could still buy a farm from 
>>> somebody
>>> who previously had a homestead.
>> Very few are going to give up there 'old' IP space without wanting a
>> high price if at all.  I know I won't, any one else going too?  Like
>> most ISP's we grow every year not shrink.  I see this as a real
>> problem.  I imagine we will dual stack soon and when the pinch comes
>> give lower tier users a NAT'ed IPv4 IP and a /48 or /64 of IPv6 space.
>>   I hate the idea of handing out NAT'ed IP space though.  Too hard to
>> tell who did what.  My opinion is there should be a very hard push to
>> IPv6.
>>
>> Whats bad is 99% percent of consumer wifi routers do not support IPv6.
>>   That is going to be a HUGE issue.
>>
>>
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