+1 for Chuck's write up. E-mail is a very essential service. People can deal with not being able to get to certain web-sites, etc. But, when e-mail goes down that's a big issue to them.
I had to go through some soul searching on my first outsource to Google. Took me awhile to pull the trigger. Glad I did for that particular client. It doesn't make sense for everyone, but makes sense in a lot of cases. Justin -- Justin Wilson <j...@mtin.net> Aol & Yahoo IM: j2sw http://www.mtin.net/blog xISP News http://www.twitter.com/j2sw Follow me on Twitter Wisp Consulting Tower Climbing Network Support From: Chuck Hogg <ch...@shelbybb.com> Reply-To: WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org> Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 09:53:08 -0400 To: <fai...@snappydsl.net>, WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org> Subject: Re: [WISPA] OpenSource Email Server platform All I'm going to say about this is that Gmail made my email headaches go away. No more tracking down spam/antivirus issues, no more webmail issues, no more hardware issues with the servers (disks seemed to fail in an email server more often than a web server). No more people getting their password hacked and thousands of emails being sent out. No more IPs ending up in the SORBS/et. al databases. I tracked email maintenance time and materials for 6 months, and it was well worth the $.35 per email account we spent to let Google do it. It is so easy to tell someone to take their iPhone/Droid phone/et. al and select Google as their email provider and put in their login information. Regards, Chuck On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 9:15 PM, Faisal Imtiaz <fai...@snappydsl.net> wrote: > > You can slice it any way you like... > > all I can tell you is that ... when you have evaluate honestly how much time > is spent by yourself or someone vs how much you have to pay for the > service... > > for example. > Paying someone $75/month to keep linux boxes uptodate and secure is a very > inexpensive proposition. > Paying someone $0.25 per mailbox for high quality spam / virus filtering > services is a very inexpensive proposition.. > > paying $0.35 per mailbox which includes some ridiculous amount of storage and > spam / anti virus is a heck of a deal... > > Unless.... you need somethings else that is not there... > e.g. in our case, we use internal hosted machines that we have 'outsourced' > security & updates on to a third party... and we pay a different third party > for excellent Spam/Virus filtering... > > our problem was very simple... we provide hosting packages along with > email.... even though what Google and Tucows offer is a great deal.. but we > needed options which they don't offer. > > Maybe next go around we may separate mail from hosting control panel... > > Your Mileage May Vary. > > Regards > > Faisal Imtiaz > Snappy Internet & Telecom > > > On 3/28/2011 8:41 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: >> Exactly, out-sourcing just means you just pay for it indirectly, plus their >> profit. >> >> ----- >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions >> http://www.ics-il.com >> >> On 3/28/2011 5:18 PM, Cameron Crum wrote: >>> It all costs some way. You pay for administration, hardware, etc, whether >>> you outsource or host it yourself. The time savings for me would be well >>> worth $0.35 per user even in the thousands...may not be for others. >>> >>> Cameron >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 5:04 PM, Matt <lm7...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>>> > Do you have the ability to do multiple domains with the Google platform? >>>>> We >>>>> > also offer hosting services that need email. >>>> >>>> >>>> To do the switch to Gmail I believe you must change all client SMTP >>>> and POP3 server settings. Yuk. Also, depending how many email >>>> accounts you have $0.35 can really add up especially when in the >>>> thousands. >>>> >>>> >>>>> > I would second qmailtoaster if you have to have your own server. >>>>> Personally, >>>>> > I would never run my own server again. At $0.35/mailbox with google or >>>>> other >>>>> > hosted platforms, the time and effort it takes to keep things updated >>>>> and >>>>> > blocking spam effectively are much more costly. >>>>> > >>>>> > Regards, >>>>> > >>>>> > Cameron >>>>> > >>>>> > On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 3:03 PM, Frank Crawford <mogoo...@gmx.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> > >>>>> > http://www.mailenable.com/standard_edition.asp >>>>> > >>>>> > There is a free (as in beer) edition and versions with the requirements >>>>> > that you requested. >>>>> > >>>>> > Frank >>>>> > >>>>> > On 3/28/2011 12:53 PM, Patrick D. Nix, Jr wrote: >>>>>> >> Since we began in '98 we've been using the same windows based email >>>>>> server >>>>>> >> MailMax. Because of some support/productivity issues we are >>>>>> investigating >>>>>> >> integrating a new box. The requirements are: webmail, web management of >>>>>> >> individuals mail accounts (with password reset), pop3/smtp/imap, can >>>>>> run on >>>>>> >> Windows or Linux. 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