I agree with Chuck.  Every problem I have with Gmail is always getting the
customer to log in.  It is very difficult for them to type their user name
in the box that says user name and their password where it says password.
Outside of that customer every few months, zero problems.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 9:53 AM, Chuck Hogg <ch...@shelbybb.com> wrote:

> All I'm going to say about this is that Gmail made my email headaches go
> away.  No more tracking down spam/antivirus issues, no more webmail issues,
> no more hardware issues with the servers (disks seemed to fail in an email
> server more often than a web server).  No more people getting their password
> hacked and thousands of emails being sent out.  No more IPs ending up in the
> SORBS/et. al databases.  I tracked email maintenance time and materials for
> 6 months, and it was well worth the $.35 per email account we spent to let
> Google do it.
>
> It is so easy to tell someone to take their iPhone/Droid phone/et. al and
> select Google as their email provider and put in their login information.
>
> Regards,
> Chuck
>
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 9:15 PM, Faisal Imtiaz <fai...@snappydsl.net>wrote:
>
>>  You can slice it any way you like...
>>
>> all I can tell you is that ... when you have evaluate honestly  how much
>> time is spent by yourself or someone vs  how much you have to pay for the
>> service...
>>
>> for example.
>> Paying someone $75/month to keep linux boxes uptodate  and secure is a
>> very inexpensive proposition.
>> Paying someone $0.25 per mailbox for high quality spam / virus filtering
>> services is a very inexpensive proposition..
>>
>> paying $0.35 per mailbox which includes some ridiculous amount of storage
>> and spam / anti virus is a heck of a deal...
>>
>> Unless.... you need somethings else that is not there...
>> e.g. in our case, we use internal hosted machines that we have
>> 'outsourced' security & updates on to a third party... and we pay a
>> different third party for excellent Spam/Virus filtering...
>>
>> our problem was very simple... we provide hosting packages along with
>> email.... even though what Google and Tucows offer is a great deal.. but  we
>> needed options which they don't offer.
>>
>> Maybe next go around we may separate mail from hosting control panel...
>>
>> Your Mileage May Vary.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Faisal Imtiaz
>> Snappy Internet & Telecom
>>
>>
>>
>> On 3/28/2011 8:41 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
>>
>> Exactly, out-sourcing just means you just pay for it indirectly, plus
>> their profit.
>>
>> -----
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutionshttp://www.ics-il.com
>>
>>
>> On 3/28/2011 5:18 PM, Cameron Crum wrote:
>>
>> It all costs some way. You pay for administration, hardware, etc, whether
>> you outsource or host it yourself. The time savings for me would be well
>> worth $0.35 per user even in the thousands...may not be for others.
>>
>> Cameron
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 5:04 PM, Matt <lm7...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> > Do you have the ability to do multiple domains with the Google
>>> platform?  We
>>> > also offer hosting services that need email.
>>>
>>>  To do the switch to Gmail I believe you must change all client SMTP
>>> and POP3 server settings.  Yuk.  Also, depending how many email
>>> accounts you have $0.35 can really add up especially when in the
>>> thousands.
>>>
>>> > I would second qmailtoaster if you have to have your own server.
>>> Personally,
>>> > I would never run my own server again. At $0.35/mailbox with google or
>>> other
>>> > hosted platforms, the time and effort it takes to keep things updated
>>> and
>>> > blocking spam effectively are much more costly.
>>> >
>>> > Regards,
>>> >
>>> > Cameron
>>> >
>>> > On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 3:03 PM, Frank Crawford <mogoo...@gmx.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > http://www.mailenable.com/standard_edition.asp
>>> >
>>> > There is a free (as in beer) edition and versions with the requirements
>>> > that you requested.
>>> >
>>> > Frank
>>> >
>>> > On 3/28/2011 12:53 PM, Patrick D. Nix, Jr wrote:
>>> >> Since we began in '98 we've been using the same windows based email
>>> server
>>> >> MailMax.  Because of some support/productivity issues we are
>>> investigating
>>> >> integrating a new box.  The requirements are: webmail, web management
>>> of
>>> >> individuals mail accounts (with password reset), pop3/smtp/imap, can
>>> run on
>>> >> Windows or Linux.  We would also like a calendar and address book
>>> module in
>>> >> webmail as well.
>>> >>
>>> >> Anyone have suggestions?
>>>
>>>
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