What is your current cost for those 7400 email boxes?

Josh Luthman
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On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 1:47 PM, Cameron Kilton <c...@midcoast.com> wrote:

> We have over 7400 email boxes. At $0.35 each that is almost $2,600/month
> or $31,200/year. That is a large expense for email.
>
>
> Thanks,
> Cameron Kilton
> Project Manager
> Midcoast Internet Solutions
> http://www.midcoast.com
> c...@midcoast.com
> (207) 594-8277 x 108
>
> On 3/29/2011 11:55 AM, Shaun Hoggan wrote:
> > This is a great dialog on the pros and cons of hosting vs. outsourcing
> > email. While the answer is not going to be the same for everyone,
> > outsourcing our mail to Google has improved our customer experience many
> > fold and has further entrenched our customers to us as their ISP.
> >
> > IKANO determined several years ago that we could not compete with the
> > Google Gmail. The adage goes, “if you cannot beat them join them.” IKANO
> > ended up moving our mail to Gmail and it has been one of the single best
> > decisions we have made as a service provider.
> >
> > You can find out more about how IKANO is enabling service providers to
> > move to Gmail here:
> >
> > http://partneredition.ikano.com/
> >
> > Shaun Hoggan
> >
> > s...@ikano.com <mailto:s...@ikano.com>
> >
> > 801-415-8113
> >
> > *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
> > *On Behalf Of *Mark Nash
> > *Sent:* Tuesday, March 29, 2011 8:57 AM
> > *To:* WISPA General List
> > *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] OpenSource Email Server platform
> >
> > Would someone please tell me who to get in touch with for this $.35 per
> > account price you're getting? I haven't been able to track anyone down
> > about it.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Mark
> >
> > On 3/29/2011 6:53 AM, Chuck Hogg wrote:
> >
> > All I'm going to say about this is that Gmail made my email headaches go
> > away. No more tracking down spam/antivirus issues, no more webmail
> > issues, no more hardware issues with the servers (disks seemed to fail
> > in an email server more often than a web server). No more people getting
> > their password hacked and thousands of emails being sent out. No more
> > IPs ending up in the SORBS/et. al databases. I tracked email maintenance
> > time and materials for 6 months, and it was well worth the $.35 per
> > email account we spent to let Google do it.
> >
> > It is so easy to tell someone to take their iPhone/Droid phone/et. al
> > and select Google as their email provider and put in their login
> > information.
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> > Chuck
> >
> > On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 9:15 PM, Faisal Imtiaz <fai...@snappydsl.net
> > <mailto:fai...@snappydsl.net>> wrote:
> >
> > You can slice it any way you like...
> >
> > all I can tell you is that ... when you have evaluate honestly how much
> > time is spent by yourself or someone vs how much you have to pay for the
> > service...
> >
> > for example.
> > Paying someone $75/month to keep linux boxes uptodate and secure is a
> > very inexpensive proposition.
> > Paying someone $0.25 per mailbox for high quality spam / virus filtering
> > services is a very inexpensive proposition..
> >
> > paying $0.35 per mailbox which includes some ridiculous amount of
> > storage and spam / anti virus is a heck of a deal...
> >
> > Unless.... you need somethings else that is not there...
> > e.g. in our case, we use internal hosted machines that we have
> > 'outsourced' security & updates on to a third party... and we pay a
> > different third party for excellent Spam/Virus filtering...
> >
> > our problem was very simple... we provide hosting packages along with
> > email.... even though what Google and Tucows offer is a great deal.. but
> > we needed options which they don't offer.
> >
> > Maybe next go around we may separate mail from hosting control panel...
> >
> > Your Mileage May Vary.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> >
> >
> > Faisal Imtiaz
> >
> > Snappy Internet&  Telecom
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 3/28/2011 8:41 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
> >
> > Exactly, out-sourcing just means you just pay for it indirectly, plus
> > their profit.
> >
> > -----
> >
> > Mike Hammett
> >
> > Intelligent Computing Solutions
> >
> > http://www.ics-il.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 3/28/2011 5:18 PM, Cameron Crum wrote:
> >
> > It all costs some way. You pay for administration, hardware, etc,
> > whether you outsource or host it yourself. The time savings for me would
> > be well worth $0.35 per user even in the thousands...may not be for
> others.
> >
> > Cameron
> >
> > On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 5:04 PM, Matt <lm7...@gmail.com
> > <mailto:lm7...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> >  > Do you have the ability to do multiple domains with the Google
> > platform? We
> >  > also offer hosting services that need email.
> >
> > To do the switch to Gmail I believe you must change all client SMTP
> > and POP3 server settings. Yuk. Also, depending how many email
> > accounts you have $0.35 can really add up especially when in the
> > thousands.
> >
> >
> >  > I would second qmailtoaster if you have to have your own server.
> > Personally,
> >  > I would never run my own server again. At $0.35/mailbox with google
> > or other
> >  > hosted platforms, the time and effort it takes to keep things updated
> and
> >  > blocking spam effectively are much more costly.
> >  >
> >  > Regards,
> >  >
> >  > Cameron
> >  >
> >  > On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 3:03 PM, Frank Crawford <mogoo...@gmx.com
> > <mailto:mogoo...@gmx.com>> wrote:
> >  >
> >  > http://www.mailenable.com/standard_edition.asp
> >  >
> >  > There is a free (as in beer) edition and versions with the
> requirements
> >  > that you requested.
> >  >
> >  > Frank
> >  >
> >  > On 3/28/2011 12:53 PM, Patrick D. Nix, Jr wrote:
> >  >> Since we began in '98 we've been using the same windows based email
> > server
> >  >> MailMax. Because of some support/productivity issues we are
> > investigating
> >  >> integrating a new box. The requirements are: webmail, web management
> of
> >  >> individuals mail accounts (with password reset), pop3/smtp/imap, can
> > run on
> >  >> Windows or Linux. We would also like a calendar and address book
> > module in
> >  >> webmail as well.
> >  >>
> >  >> Anyone have suggestions?
> >
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