Eric: The whole purpose of this test was to create an omni effect.
You're talking about something totally different, and I have often
wondered that as well.  I think there was a company that did this a
long time ago, Luxul maybe?  You would buy their antenna array..and
they claimed a lot but nothing materialized out of it AFAIK.

Jim: I don't have the data sheets for them, actually they (my techs)
assembled everything while I was in Vegas.

We've gone ahead and converted more clients over to it today, and
speeds/latency are just the same when it was one sector.

Regards,
Chuck



On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 4:04 PM, Eric Rogers <ecrog...@precisionds.com> wrote:
> I have often wondered if it would be better to have two antennas in one
> given direction, with one being \ pol and the other antenna being used for /
> pol.  I wondered if special diversity would allow us to achieve better
> penetration results to clients without using splitters.
>
>
>
> Basically order the two of the standard moto antennas, but use one polarity
> on each.
>
>
>
> Eric Rogers
>
> Precision Data Solutions, LLC
>
> (317) 831-3000 x200
>
>
>
>
>
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of lakel...@gbcx.net
> Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 2:49 PM
> To: WISPA General List; WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Splitters with Motorola Canopy 320 - Results Update
>
>
>
> You are not really talking a phased array here.  Lengths should not be
> critical.
>
> ----- Reply message -----
> From: "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
> Subject: [WISPA] Splitters with Motorola Canopy 320 - Results Update
> Date: Tue, Oct 25, 2011 2:39 pm
>
>
> Premades?  Or did you make your own and get as close as humanly possible?
>
> Josh Luthman
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> On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 1:55 PM, Chuck Hogg <ch...@shelbybb.com> wrote:
>> It is my understanding that they need to be of the same length.  That
>> was our design, all the same length...we used 18" LMR 240 for this
>> situation.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Chuck
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 1:30 PM, Kristian Hoffmann <kh...@fire2wire.com>
>> wrote:
>>> Do you have a reference for calculating the proper cable lengths and
>>> antenna spacing based on frequency when using splitters in a
>>> configuration like this?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> -Kristian
>>>
>>> On 10/25/2011 06:39 AM, Chuck Hogg wrote:
>>>> I thought I would post back on here what we did and our results.
>>>> These are preliminary.
>>>>
>>>> Equipment:
>>>> 1 x 320AP
>>>>
>>>> Configuration with only one sector:
>>>> Power set to 19.9dB (per the manual for legal power settings)
>>>> AP set to -65 power leveling
>>>> Client signals at the AP were -65 (or thereabouts, this fluctuates
>>>> from -65 to -70) for all clients.
>>>> Client receive levels ranged from -61 to -75.
>>>>
>>>> Equipment:
>>>> 1 x 320AP
>>>> 4 x 16.5dB 90 degree sectors
>>>> 2 x 4 way splitters from L-Com
>>>>
>>>> Configuration with only one sector:
>>>> Power set to full 25dB (per the manual for legal power settings,
>>>> assuming a -6.5dB of loss)
>>>> AP set to -65 power leveling
>>>> Client signals at the AP were -65 (or thereabouts, this fluctuates
>>>> from -65 to -70) for all clients.
>>>> Client receive levels ranged from -64 to -78.
>>>>
>>>> So essentially by adding a 4 way splitter the clients receive levels
>>>> increased by about 3.5-4dB.  Tower receive levels were unchanged, as
>>>> most of the clients were power leveled down.  Only one client is
>>>> transmitting at full power now.  That client is also the highest
>>>> signal on both sides.  Most client transmit levels are also running at
>>>> a higher power now as well.
>>>>
>>>> Conclusion:
>>>> I think that running 1 x 320AP x 4 sectors through splitters is a
>>>> little aggressive.  If the majority of your clients are going to have
>>>> decent signal levels, then I see no problems with it.  However, I
>>>> think that our current situation is a little on the edge.  I think
>>>> that if you are looking for an inexpensive way to use 320AP's, I would
>>>> recommend this solution.  I think that this solution has a higher net
>>>> gain over using an 8dB omni.  My results show that it is pretty
>>>> consistent on being about a total loss of about 8dB using a 4 way
>>>> splitter.  You can overcome 6.1dB of that loss in turning up the
>>>> transmit power of the radios.   Your net loss is about 2.5-3dB,
>>>> however you are able to focus the sectors a little better.
>>>>
>>>> In the long run on future deployments, we will likely use 2 AP's and 4
>>>> sectors with 4x2way splitters (MIMO).  Once they reach capacity, we'll
>>>> add additional AP's.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Chuck
>>>>
>>>>
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