We just happen to fall into one of those 3.65Ghz protected areas! But I have 
heard that the local telco has something going on there too!

Scottie Arnett
President
Info-Ed, Inc.
Electronics and More
931-243-2101
sarn...@info-ed.com
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Fred Goldstein" <fgoldst...@ionary.com>
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Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 10:38 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC releases USF/ICC Order, rules on subsidizing ILECs


> At 11/21/2011 11:18 PM, Scottie Arnett wrote:
>>Re-reading your posts brings me to another question.....has any VOIP
>>carriers ever used cellular carriers numbers? Is it even possible?
>
> First, wrt the Livingston exchange, 931-397 and 931-403 belong to US
> Cellular; the latter is pooled (they're using the 7's).  Nextel has
> -871, pooled (using 6 and 7).  Oddly, US Cellular but not S-N says it
> subtends a Gaineborough tandem, which is Twin Lakes, but most Twin
> Lakes exchanges subtend Nashville.
>
> As to VoIP via cellular numbers, well, its sort of odd, but it might
> be possible.  The new rules may actually say something about this -- 
> there was a VoIP company affiliated with a wireless company that was,
> uh, alleged to have been laundering its LD calls via the cellular
> company in order to get the lower termination rates.  They deny it of
> course... but that may have been addressed in the intercarrier
> rules.  I haven't gotten through it all yet. (It's freakin' huge.)  I
> actually had a client that was a wireless company whose business
> included lots and lots of modems, way back when, so it's not
> unprecedented to have, uh, "incidental" non-wireless traffic go
> through a wirless feed.  And heck, put up one 3.65 GHz base station
> (if it's allowed there) and declare it "CMRS", and you're a cellco too!
>
> There's one lawyer I know who sort of specializes in this sort of thing.
>
>>Scottie Arnett
>>President
>>Info-Ed, Inc.
>>Electronics and More
>>931-243-2101
>>sarn...@info-ed.com
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Scottie Arnett" <sarn...@info-ed.com>
>>To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
>>Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 10:14 PM
>>Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC releases USF/ICC Order, rules on subsidizing 
>>ILECs
>>
>>
>> > Please explain about the Livingston exchange!!! I have been trying to
>> > break
>> > this barrier for almost 12 years.
>> >
>> > Scottie Arnett
>> > President
>> > Info-Ed, Inc.
>> > Electronics and More
>> > 931-243-2101
>> > sarn...@info-ed.com
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Fred Goldstein" <fgoldst...@ionary.com>
>> > To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
>> > Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 9:08 PM
>> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC releases USF/ICC Order, rules on subsidizing
>> > ILECs
>> >
>> >
>> >> At 11/21/2011 09:29 PM, you wrote:
>> >>>The only other "telcos/cellcos" here that have local numbers are US
>> >>>Cellular
>> >>>and Verizon. None of the big VOIP carriers do, such as
>> >>>Vonage/Packet8/take
>> >>>your pick. They have NO Clec's here either.
>> >>
>> >> I like to think of that as a challenge. ;-)  The good news is that
>> >> they use the Nashville tandem, not their own, so the traffic exchange
>> >> can be indirect.
>> >>
>> >> But it's true that there are no CLECs with numbers in TLTC's
>> >> area.  Powertel, US Cellular, VZW and Sprint Nextel are the only
>> >> other carriers there, all mobile.  No Celina numbers, either, if it
>> >> matters. But Livingston has pooled prefix codes available.
>> >>
>> >>
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