Scottie, I have the same issue here in Indiana with one exchange in particular. 
 I have been in contact with the Indiana Utility Regulatory Committee.  They 
are in process of helping us.  They could not understand why we could port and 
have access to all other exchanges in the same rate center but not that one.  

Steve Barnes
General Manager
PCS-WIN / RC-WiFi


-----Original Message-----
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Scottie Arnett
Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 12:58 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC releases USF/ICC Order, rules on subsidizing ILECs

We just happen to fall into one of those 3.65Ghz protected areas! But I have 
heard that the local telco has something going on there too!

Scottie Arnett
President
Info-Ed, Inc.
Electronics and More
931-243-2101
sarn...@info-ed.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Fred Goldstein" <fgoldst...@ionary.com>
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Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 10:38 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC releases USF/ICC Order, rules on subsidizing ILECs


> At 11/21/2011 11:18 PM, Scottie Arnett wrote:
>>Re-reading your posts brings me to another question.....has any VOIP
>>carriers ever used cellular carriers numbers? Is it even possible?
>
> First, wrt the Livingston exchange, 931-397 and 931-403 belong to US
> Cellular; the latter is pooled (they're using the 7's).  Nextel has
> -871, pooled (using 6 and 7).  Oddly, US Cellular but not S-N says it
> subtends a Gaineborough tandem, which is Twin Lakes, but most Twin
> Lakes exchanges subtend Nashville.
>
> As to VoIP via cellular numbers, well, its sort of odd, but it might
> be possible.  The new rules may actually say something about this -- 
> there was a VoIP company affiliated with a wireless company that was,
> uh, alleged to have been laundering its LD calls via the cellular
> company in order to get the lower termination rates.  They deny it of
> course... but that may have been addressed in the intercarrier
> rules.  I haven't gotten through it all yet. (It's freakin' huge.)  I
> actually had a client that was a wireless company whose business
> included lots and lots of modems, way back when, so it's not
> unprecedented to have, uh, "incidental" non-wireless traffic go
> through a wirless feed.  And heck, put up one 3.65 GHz base station
> (if it's allowed there) and declare it "CMRS", and you're a cellco too!
>
> There's one lawyer I know who sort of specializes in this sort of thing.
>
>>Scottie Arnett
>>President
>>Info-Ed, Inc.
>>Electronics and More
>>931-243-2101
>>sarn...@info-ed.com
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Scottie Arnett" <sarn...@info-ed.com>
>>To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
>>Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 10:14 PM
>>Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC releases USF/ICC Order, rules on subsidizing 
>>ILECs
>>
>>
>> > Please explain about the Livingston exchange!!! I have been trying to
>> > break
>> > this barrier for almost 12 years.
>> >
>> > Scottie Arnett
>> > President
>> > Info-Ed, Inc.
>> > Electronics and More
>> > 931-243-2101
>> > sarn...@info-ed.com
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Fred Goldstein" <fgoldst...@ionary.com>
>> > To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
>> > Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 9:08 PM
>> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC releases USF/ICC Order, rules on subsidizing
>> > ILECs
>> >
>> >
>> >> At 11/21/2011 09:29 PM, you wrote:
>> >>>The only other "telcos/cellcos" here that have local numbers are US
>> >>>Cellular
>> >>>and Verizon. None of the big VOIP carriers do, such as
>> >>>Vonage/Packet8/take
>> >>>your pick. They have NO Clec's here either.
>> >>
>> >> I like to think of that as a challenge. ;-)  The good news is that
>> >> they use the Nashville tandem, not their own, so the traffic exchange
>> >> can be indirect.
>> >>
>> >> But it's true that there are no CLECs with numbers in TLTC's
>> >> area.  Powertel, US Cellular, VZW and Sprint Nextel are the only
>> >> other carriers there, all mobile.  No Celina numbers, either, if it
>> >> matters. But Livingston has pooled prefix codes available.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>  --
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