I agree with your first sentence, Marlon, but your second comment seems unclear because everyone hands off traffic.
The main difference between 3rd party and in-house VoIP is that you have a different set of rules to follow for CALEA compliance specifically for voice service providers that includes the requirement to provide call records to the LEA (called number, start call, end call, call duration, etc.). There are other differences, but this is the main difference. The WISPA CALEA Standard does not apply to VoIP intercepts when VoIP is hosted in-house. The IPNA standard is specifically for Network Access providers (the "NA" in IPNA) and not for Voice Service Providers. We should have a standard for wireless VoIP providers, because a lot of WISPs offer VoIP today compared to the time when we started writing the first WISPA CALEA standard. jc On 3/1/2012 11:20 AM, Marlon K. Schafer (509-982-2181) wrote: > You can only record what hits your network. > > If it's handed off to someone else they'll have to record it. > > marlon > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Matt Hoppes"<mhop...@indigowireless.com> > To:<fai...@snappydsl.net>; "WISPA General List"<wireless@wispa.org> > Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 6:56 AM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] VoIP CALEA Question > > >> I'm obviously not asking the question properly. >> >> I know how to do a CALEA capture for regular IP traffic. My question is >> related to VoIP traffic in particular. >> >> (e.g. Yes, if a customer has Vonage I obviously can't record the call... >> but I can capture the packets). >> >> However, my understanding was always that if you provided VoIP from your >> network you had to be able to record both legs of the call so that the >> LEA can determine, for example, which side of the call a noise was heard >> on. >> >> >> Matt Hoppes >> Director of Information Technology >> Indigo Wireless >> +1 (570) 723-7312 >> >> On 3/1/12 9:38 AM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote: >>> Do a google search on "Mikrotik CALEA", take a look at The Mikrotik >>> WIki as well as Butch's CALEA (MUM 2007) presentation. >>> This will give you an excellent idea on how to accomplish what you are >>> asking for . >>> >>> Regards. >>> >>> Faisal Imtiaz >>> Snappy Internet& Telecom >>> 7266 SW 48 Street >>> Miami, Fl 33155 >>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 >>> Helpdesk: 305 663 5518 option 2 Email: supp...@snappydsl.net >>> >>> >>> On 3/1/2012 7:20 AM, Matt Hoppes wrote: >>>> We are considering doing some limited VoIP offerings to supplement our >>>> GSM offerings in certain situations. >>>> >>>> A question that just arose, and I don't know the answer to is: >>>> >>>> * Understanding that an interconnected VoIP carrier must be CALEA >>>> compliant and be able to record calls. >>>> >>>> ** How does this situation work if the audio stream does not pass >>>> through your soft-switch? (e.g. end user makes a call, my soft switch >>>> sets up the call between end-user and Level3, and then a re-invite >>>> happens which sends the audio from the end-user direct to the Level3 >>>> switch) >>>> >>>> How am I suppose to be able to record that call? >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Wireless mailing list >>>> Wireless@wispa.org >>>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wireless mailing list >>> Wireless@wispa.org >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> _______________________________________________ >> Wireless mailing list >> Wireless@wispa.org >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > _______________________________________________ > Caleaquestions mailing list > caleaquesti...@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/caleaquestions > _______________________________________________ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless