Agreed. Plus I think most people on this thread didn't even understand the situation.
----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 3/1/2012 10:43 AM, J.C. Utter wrote: > I agree with your first sentence, Marlon, but your second comment seems > unclear because everyone hands off traffic. > > The main difference between 3rd party and in-house VoIP is that you have > a different set of rules to follow for CALEA compliance specifically for > voice service providers that includes the requirement to provide call > records to the LEA (called number, start call, end call, call duration, > etc.). There are other differences, but this is the main difference. The > WISPA CALEA Standard does not apply to VoIP intercepts when VoIP is > hosted in-house. The IPNA standard is specifically for Network Access > providers (the "NA" in IPNA) and not for Voice Service Providers. > > We should have a standard for wireless VoIP providers, because a lot of > WISPs offer VoIP today compared to the time when we started writing the > first WISPA CALEA standard. > > jc > > > On 3/1/2012 11:20 AM, Marlon K. Schafer (509-982-2181) wrote: >> You can only record what hits your network. >> >> If it's handed off to someone else they'll have to record it. >> >> marlon >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Matt Hoppes"<mhop...@indigowireless.com> >> To:<fai...@snappydsl.net>; "WISPA General List"<wireless@wispa.org> >> Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 6:56 AM >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] VoIP CALEA Question >> >> >>> I'm obviously not asking the question properly. >>> >>> I know how to do a CALEA capture for regular IP traffic. My question is >>> related to VoIP traffic in particular. >>> >>> (e.g. Yes, if a customer has Vonage I obviously can't record the call... >>> but I can capture the packets). >>> >>> However, my understanding was always that if you provided VoIP from your >>> network you had to be able to record both legs of the call so that the >>> LEA can determine, for example, which side of the call a noise was heard >>> on. >>> >>> >>> Matt Hoppes >>> Director of Information Technology >>> Indigo Wireless >>> +1 (570) 723-7312 >>> >>> On 3/1/12 9:38 AM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote: >>>> Do a google search on "Mikrotik CALEA", take a look at The Mikrotik >>>> WIki as well as Butch's CALEA (MUM 2007) presentation. >>>> This will give you an excellent idea on how to accomplish what you are >>>> asking for . >>>> >>>> Regards. >>>> >>>> Faisal Imtiaz >>>> Snappy Internet& Telecom >>>> 7266 SW 48 Street >>>> Miami, Fl 33155 >>>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 >>>> Helpdesk: 305 663 5518 option 2 Email: supp...@snappydsl.net >>>> >>>> >>>> On 3/1/2012 7:20 AM, Matt Hoppes wrote: >>>>> We are considering doing some limited VoIP offerings to supplement our >>>>> GSM offerings in certain situations. >>>>> >>>>> A question that just arose, and I don't know the answer to is: >>>>> >>>>> * Understanding that an interconnected VoIP carrier must be CALEA >>>>> compliant and be able to record calls. >>>>> >>>>> ** How does this situation work if the audio stream does not pass >>>>> through your soft-switch? (e.g. end user makes a call, my soft switch >>>>> sets up the call between end-user and Level3, and then a re-invite >>>>> happens which sends the audio from the end-user direct to the Level3 >>>>> switch) >>>>> >>>>> How am I suppose to be able to record that call? >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Wireless mailing list >>>>> Wireless@wispa.org >>>>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Wireless mailing list >>>> Wireless@wispa.org >>>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wireless mailing list >>> Wireless@wispa.org >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> _______________________________________________ >> Caleaquestions mailing list >> caleaquesti...@wispa.org >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/caleaquestions >> > _______________________________________________ > Wireless mailing list > Wireless@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless _______________________________________________ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
