MT makes Software and also Hardware (routerboard)

Blanket statements like the one below do not make sense.... Every Mfg. 
has a range of limits that their products do a very good job for, it you 
try to use them out of that range they fall flat..

Care to put a context to your statement ?

:)

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On 10/12/2012 10:50 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
> All MT switching is junk.
>
>
>
> -----
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Scott Reed" <sr...@nwwnet.net>
> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
> Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 8:18:25 PM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Radios as routers
>
>
> MT has several devices with hardware switches on board and fully accessible 
> through the GUI. They also have a switch sort of based on ROS.
>
> On 10/11/2012 8:35 PM, Fred Goldstein wrote:
>
>
> At 10/11/2012 06:52 PM, SamT wrote:
>
>
> Not sure I under stand the no-NAT, so every device on the other side of the 
> CPE has it's own public IP?
> There could be one NAT, at the access point.
>
> My taste, which to be sure I haven't tested at scale in a wireless network 
> (but plan to), is to follow what is becoming standard wireline practice and 
> do switching, not bridging, at "layer 2". Routing would then be lumped into 
> one place, making it easier to manage.
>
> The problem with small Linux-based systems (this includes both UBNT and MT) 
> is that they don't tend to have switching documented or set up in the UI, 
> even if it's possible. Bridging is bad -- it was designed for orange hose 
> Ethernet, and it passes broadcast traffic to everyone. We invented this at 
> DEC in the 1980s and discovered how it doesn't scale too well -- we had a 
> couple of thousand DECnet and IP nodes on a bridged LAN, and the background 
> broadcast traffic level was 400 kbps. This was a lot for systems to handle in 
> 1991. I was testing ISDN bridges and "discovered" how you can't just bridge 
> that type of network across a 56k connection. (I discovered the traffic when 
> I first turned up the bridge. I ended up isolating it behind a router, built 
> from an old VAX. At DEC, we built everything ouf of VAXen.)
>
> Switching, though, is what Frame Relay and ATM do, and now Carrier Ethernet 
> is the big thing for fiber. It uses the VLAN tag to identify the virtual 
> circuit; the MAC addresses are just passed along. Since it's 
> connection-oriented (via the tag), it can have QoS assigned. I think it's 
> theoretically possible to tag user ports, route on tags and set QoS on 
> RouterOS, but it's not obvious how to do it all. Switching doesn't pass 
> broadcast traffic; it provides more isolation and privacy than plain routing. 
> Mesh routing then works at that layer, transparent to IP. It'll be 
> "interesting" to set up.
>
>
>
>
> On 10/11/2012 4:53 PM, Scott Reed wrote:
>
>
> We run MT, not UBNT, CPE, but it doesn't matter what brand it is. We run them 
> in as routers, but do not NAT. Same benefits others mentioned for routing, 
> just one fewer NAT. Never have a problem with it this way and can't see any 
> good reason to NAT there.
>
> On 10/11/2012 3:46 PM, Arthur Stephens wrote:
>
>
> We currently use Ubiquiti radios in bridge mode and assign a ip address to 
> the customers router.
> He have heard other wisp are using the Ubiquiti radio as a router.
> Would like feed back why one would do this when it appears customers would be 
> double natted when they hook up their routers?
> Or does it not matter from the customer experience?
>
> Thanks
>


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