Interesting explanation. Thanks. 

> On Apr 10, 2014, at 10:14 AM, "Brian Webster" <bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Fresnel zones are 180 degrees out of phase with even and odd numbered zones
> (1st, 2nd, 3rd and so on). When you design a path you strive for an exposed
> Fresnel zone of between 1 and .6 of the first zone, meaning you use the
> ground/trees/obstructions to block the second and higher numbered zones
> (this is only partially blocking the zone at the bottom). This minimizes the
> cancelling effect giving an apparent gain.
> 
> A good visual example of this is to take a Flashlight such as a Mag light
> with an adjustable beam and shine it against the wall to see the circular
> pattern. Carefully look at that pattern and you will see light and dark
> rings, these are your Fresnel zones and the lighter ones are the odd
> numbered zones. The idea is you keep the first bright zone and eliminate the
> rest. This is why going higher is not always better on a PTP path to get
> more signal once you have cleared obstructions, going higher can expose more
> even numbered Fresnel zones with the phase cancelling and a reduction in
> signal due to same.
> 
> Thank You,
> Brian Webster
> www.wirelessmapping.com
> www.Broadband-Mapping.com
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Matt Hoppes [mailto:mhop...@indigowireless.com] 
> Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2014 9:07 AM
> To: bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com; WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Who is using Towercoverage.com ?
> 
> Can you explain this more?  This isn't what I was getting at... but since
> you brought it up and it's been brought up before it might be worth
> explaining in more detail.  I'm familiar with the concept but still can't
> grasp why it works.
> 
> 
> Matt Hoppes
> Director of Information Technology
> Indigo Wireless
> +1 (570) 723-7312
> 
>> On 4/10/14, 9:04 AM, Brian Webster wrote:
>> Matt,
>> 
>>                Signals do change as you change height as you expose 
>> or conceal the even number Fresnel zones.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Thank You,
>> 
>> Brian Webster
>> 
>> www.wirelessmapping.com <http://www.wirelessmapping.com>
>> 
>> www.Broadband-Mapping.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
>> *On Behalf Of *Matt Hoppes
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 09, 2014 3:24 PM
>> *To:* WISPA General List
>> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Who is using Towercoverage.com ?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Signals don't change as you increment heights. You're asking for real 
>> time foliage mapping. Not going to find it.
>> 
>> 
>> On Apr 9, 2014, at 3:18 PM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com 
>> <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> wrote:
>> 
>>    I'm not talking about customers plotting where their address is.
>>     What I'm getting at is if I have a customer called in, I'd like to
>>    just punch in the location and then see if they'll work at ground
>>    level or how high we need to get off the ground and see the signal
>>    change as I increment height.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>    Josh Luthman
>>    Office: 937-552-2340
>>    Direct: 937-552-2343
>>    1100 Wayne St
>>    Suite 1337
>>    Troy, OH 45373
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>    On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 3:16 PM, Clay Stewart
>>    <cstew...@stewartcomputerservices.com
>>    <mailto:cstew...@stewartcomputerservices.com>> wrote:
>> 
>>    Josh. You can. Just put the web snip on a website. If need help can
>>    walk u through later today. Our websire customer lookup...
>>    http://www.towercoverage.com/iframemc.asp?mcid=1223&Acct=2910
>> 
>>    On Apr 9, 2014 3:08 PM, "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
>>    <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> wrote:
>> 
>>        I'm having a hard time adjusting to this from Radio Mobile.
>>         There's all the same "stupid" interface shortfalls, for example
>>        wanting to know what a customer's CPE would be without adding a
>>        site and putting them in the same list.  I feel with technology
>>        as it is, it shouldn't be so convoluted to simply put a dot on a
>>        map and see what the signal would be from a tower while being
>>        able to adjust the elevation on the fly.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>        I'm wondering if there's another list/forum for this service,
>>        too.  There's no way I'm going write a bible of questions for
>>        support, it doesn't make a whole lot of sense for either of us.
>> 
>> 
>>        Josh Luthman
>>        Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:937-552-2340>
>>        Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:937-552-2343>
>>        1100 Wayne St
>>        Suite 1337
>>        Troy, OH 45373
>> 
>> 
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