I've seen it before too. On the ground with a nanobridge 5 feet above the
ground with me holding it, I can get a -58 but go up 10 feet on the roof
and it's a -63 with same aiming and clear LOS. Bugs the heck out of me. But
I'm not able to go even higher in some cases to try to get a -58 back and
I'm not putting it on the ground.


On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 8:49 AM, Matt Hoppes <mhop...@indigowireless.com>wrote:

> Right. That makes sense. There are some that say that even with a clean
> fresnel going up or down 10 feet can change things. Never understood that.
>
> On Apr 10, 2014, at 9:45 AM, LTI - Dennis Burgess <gmsm...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> What he wants, is, here is my customer location, how HIGH do I need to go
> to get an acceptable signal.  If you are going though trees or near a hill,
> the Fresnel zones include constructive and nonconstructive zones.
>  sometimes going up 5 feet may help and sometimes it would harm.  These are
> only in the event that you have Fresnel zone encroachment.
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 8:06 AM, Matt Hoppes 
> <mhop...@indigowireless.com>wrote:
>
>> Can you explain this more?  This isn't what I was getting at... but
>> since you brought it up and it's been brought up before it might be
>> worth explaining in more detail.  I'm familiar with the concept but
>> still can't grasp why it works.
>>
>>
>> Matt Hoppes
>> Director of Information Technology
>> Indigo Wireless
>> +1 (570) 723-7312
>>
>> On 4/10/14, 9:04 AM, Brian Webster wrote:
>> > Matt,
>> >
>> >                 Signals do change as you change height as you expose or
>> > conceal the even number Fresnel zones.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Thank You,
>> >
>> > Brian Webster
>> >
>> > www.wirelessmapping.com <http://www.wirelessmapping.com>
>> >
>> > www.Broadband-Mapping.com
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
>> > *On Behalf Of *Matt Hoppes
>> > *Sent:* Wednesday, April 09, 2014 3:24 PM
>> > *To:* WISPA General List
>> > *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Who is using Towercoverage.com ?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Signals don't change as you increment heights. You're asking for real
>> > time foliage mapping. Not going to find it.
>> >
>> >
>> > On Apr 9, 2014, at 3:18 PM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
>> > <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> wrote:
>> >
>> >     I'm not talking about customers plotting where their address is.
>> >      What I'm getting at is if I have a customer called in, I'd like to
>> >     just punch in the location and then see if they'll work at ground
>> >     level or how high we need to get off the ground and see the signal
>> >     change as I increment height.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >     Josh Luthman
>> >     Office: 937-552-2340
>> >     Direct: 937-552-2343
>> >     1100 Wayne St
>> >     Suite 1337
>> >     Troy, OH 45373
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >     On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 3:16 PM, Clay Stewart
>> >     <cstew...@stewartcomputerservices.com
>> >     <mailto:cstew...@stewartcomputerservices.com>> wrote:
>> >
>> >     Josh. You can. Just put the web snip on a website. If need help can
>> >     walk u through later today. Our websire customer lookup...
>> >     http://www.towercoverage.com/iframemc.asp?mcid=1223&Acct=2910
>> >
>> >     On Apr 9, 2014 3:08 PM, "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
>> >     <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> wrote:
>> >
>> >         I'm having a hard time adjusting to this from Radio Mobile.
>> >          There's all the same "stupid" interface shortfalls, for example
>> >         wanting to know what a customer's CPE would be without adding a
>> >         site and putting them in the same list.  I feel with technology
>> >         as it is, it shouldn't be so convoluted to simply put a dot on a
>> >         map and see what the signal would be from a tower while being
>> >         able to adjust the elevation on the fly.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >         I'm wondering if there's another list/forum for this service,
>> >         too.  There's no way I'm going write a bible of questions for
>> >         support, it doesn't make a whole lot of sense for either of us.
>> >
>> >
>> >         Josh Luthman
>> >         Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:937-552-2340>
>> >         Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:937-552-2343>
>> >         1100 Wayne St
>> >         Suite 1337
>> >         Troy, OH 45373
>> >
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